Fake Tool Vinyl Guide

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1. Douggie_fresh on June 19th, 2009 5:49 am

   Hello,

   I have been seeing a lot of Aenima vinyl reissues latley…there is one that is printed on yellow vinyl and another one on black vinyl. The sleeves bear the Zoo/BMG Logo…but this could mean nothing as I have other bootlegs that have the label on them. I just cant seem to find any info on an official release ANYWHERE! So with that said I cant believe these are legit reissues of Aenima. Any info would help. Also….I didn’t know this, but was there never an official release of Salival on vinyl?

   Thanks!

2. Sean on June 24th, 2009 4:01 pm

   I have almost all of the tool albums on vinyl. Will there be any reissues of AEnima?

3. Cecil Gridley on June 27th, 2009 11:04 pm

   I own the Salival Vinyl, I bought it off of eBay this year and it was sealed. Inside it has the record in a standard record case also sealed and on one side a picture of the person gliding from the Stinkfist video and on the other side has the four pronged fork also from the Stinkfist video. The discs are very thick like the Lateralus ones and the color is a light blue marble. LAMC is not on the record because the length would not fit on two discs. They sound amazing and have no flaws.

4. admin on June 28th, 2009 3:00 am

   Cecil, of all the vinyl bootlegs the Salival one is the most relisitic, but read the comment above from the toolband (official band website). It is a fake!

5. sean on July 1st, 2009 12:06 am

   I’ve seen the Aenima lp mentioned above on Aural Exploits website, and they just added 10,000 Days! It says it is a promo copy and it’s on colored vinyl. Any idea where these are coming from?! Are they imports? Any info would be great, thanks!

6. admin on July 1st, 2009 2:29 am

   Hi Sean – The same website lists the parabol vinyl which is a bad bootleg! So I would take a guess that they are fake. There is no mention of a 10,000 days vinyl on toolband.com, and there would be.

7. tonym on July 1st, 2009 6:56 pm

   I bought the Aenima LP from aural exploits and it is definitely a bootleg. Colored vinyl, with no real labels (just a brief code so you can tell Side A, B, C, and D.) Plain paper sleeves and cover art that clearly wasn’t printed professionally. Sound quality is excellent though, so I’ll probably hold onto it.

8. Wes on July 2nd, 2009 10:57 pm

   If you press it, they will buy: I know money’s probably not a big deal to the band these days, but how much have they lost by not repressing Aenima? Or not re-issuing the Salival box set? It would be an easy way to make extra cash when they are not touring. They still press Undertow and Opiate??? I bought the crappy fake Lateralus when it was going around, but I got my money back from the seller because it was pressed from an MP3 sourced, Track at Once CD-R, which was extremely frustrating because some of the songs on that album segue into each other. Luckily it finally came out legitimately and was worth the wait. But if whoever is pressing Aenima and 10, 000 Days is doing it properly and the sound is good, more power to them. Maybe the band will wake up and get in gear on this.

9. nate on July 3rd, 2009 12:22 am

   ive just seen someone selling a 10000 days vinyl on ebay, he mentions that it is produced by tool disectional but i guess if someones going to go to the trouble of pressing a bootleg with labels and cover etc then also adding tool disectional is just topping it off in attempts to show authenticity. i did notice that the spelling of hofmann (lost keys blame hofmann) on this pressing is spelt hoffmann, although spelling mistakes have been known to appear in some of tools other music releases. if anyone can say for sure if this is a bootleg or not, tell me so i can buy it!! and as far as the aenima “re-issue” goes, the only difference i can see in the actual cover is that the cardboard is slightly thinner on the re-issue. and just a heads up, im sure there will be people buying the re-issue and swapping the cover with maybe a not so mint original release cover and selling it like that. i guess theres not much difference except for the principal, and the musty smell of the true original!!

10. teddy on July 9th, 2009 3:18 pm

    i have a tool vinyl that has a picture on it but can not find it in the internet anywhere where could i go to find out what i have and how much it is worth

11. kgturner on July 10th, 2009 10:42 pm

    there sure is a shitload of those “ultra rare” 10,000 days vinyl on eBay right now. my bullshit detector is pegged. somebody’s cleaning up on those rare releases which were only released in the uk or usa only depending on whose auction you read.

12. Nick on July 11th, 2009 2:00 pm

    Hi,
    i to have bought the so called re issue of Aenima,to good to be true?
    yes it is from the slightly fuzzy artwork and writing,to the plain paper inner sleeves.
    But wow the sound quality is great ! i’ll settle for this in the hope Tool see sense and reissue it for real.
    Oh and by the way is the mix different from the cd…i’m sure i heared some different parts on my vinyl copy?
    Nick.

13. Nick on July 11th, 2009 2:06 pm

    Oh and one more thing,i am new to this site…it may have been said but surely Tool are the only major established band without a live dvd.
    Can you just imagine how good it would be?….Blueray,nice box,artwork,booklet,extras….etc…..ok i’ll shut up.
    Nick.

14. joel on July 16th, 2009 6:51 pm

    this person on ebay is selling fake tool records his name on ebay is operation_goodguys beware he a rip off too

15. red alert on July 16th, 2009 8:10 pm

    (eBay )collect_it_all_now —- ya i got the record 10,000 days and fuck he rip off and heaps of marks on it the dealer number -ben
    0394197787 and his nick name on ebay is operation_goodguys

16. Gary on July 18th, 2009 4:50 am

    Hi all,
    Thanks for all the great info, could anyone let me know if the new bootleg Aenima has a gatefold sleeve ? I understand that the record jackets are plain (shame) but what about other artwork ?
    I agree with all others, I have the Parabola and the quality is dismal

17. ice -cream man on July 18th, 2009 9:24 pm

    yep there is a new boot leg of Aenima and its shit sound

18. dirty dog on July 18th, 2009 9:26 pm

    man there a lot of fake tool records off ebay fuck i wish they close down there account

19. Mathew on July 22nd, 2009 4:11 am

    Hi To all,
    I recently bought a lateralus vinyl that I cant see mentioned here and was wondering if anyone could tell me more about it
    the cover is not holographic and the back cover has a brown eye on it here is one on ebay:

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tool-Lateralus-Vinyl-LP-mint_W0QQitemZ280375636280QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Records?hash=item4147b0b138&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1683%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

20. admin on July 22nd, 2009 1:26 pm

    Yes, I believe that version is a fake also. I will add it!

21. Karri on July 27th, 2009 8:06 am

    Does anyone else’s official Lateralus vinyl have really poor sound?
    Mine has very heavy surface noise on it, making it unbearable to
    listen to. It seems that picture discs can be more prone to sound
    imperfections due to their different manufacturing method, but none of my other picture discs are that heavily laced with hisses and the like. Cleaning the record thoroughly did not help at all.

22. Brendan on July 30th, 2009 5:31 pm

    Hi Karri

    is it possible you need a new needle?

    I’m sure you checked though!

23. Paul on August 10th, 2009 11:29 am

    Bought the Aenima bootleg in a secondhand shop, knowing that it was a bootleg but the quality is real good so I don’t have anything to complain about (except, that the real Aenima DLP is too damn expensive …)

24. john on August 11th, 2009 7:33 am

    Mine also sounds bad, you can actually see the warp in the vinyl. I have read others have the same with that problem and that others have ones that sound great. Did you get yours off ebay?

25. Karri on August 13th, 2009 7:20 am

    Thanks for your replies. I bought the LP from my local record store when it came out. With every needle & cartridge I’ve tried, the record always sounds painful. I guess it’s a part of the nature of vinyl records that some copies can simply become noisy over the manufacturing / assembling / shipping process when they can be exposed to dust & heat etc.

26. Terry on August 16th, 2009 4:04 pm

    So, what does one do with eBay then? Do you try to file a report to see if eBay will remove these fake recordings? Or, just let the bidders be duped into purchasing counterfit items? Isn’t eBay supposed to do somehting about these f**kheads that sell this shit?

27. admin on August 16th, 2009 4:12 pm

    Hi Terry, I have added the ebay page that talks about items like this to the bottom of the article and here it is again:
    http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/replica-counterfeit.html

    You can use a link on that page to report listings as fake and the items often get removed.

28. Terry on August 16th, 2009 6:53 pm

    Thanks admin. I put in a complaint with eBay….probably won’t make a difference. Maybe if more people did, they’d take notice. I feel sorry for the people that get ripped off.

    I emailed this cock knuckle and said that his lp was a fake/counterfit, and actually got a reply back:

    “No, special limited promo offer”
    - my-vinyl Did this answer your question? If not, let the seller know.
    TOOL 10,000 DAYS 2 X LP BLUE VINYL MINT PROMO

    Item Id: 250480530452
    End time: Aug-16-09 15:05:08 PDT
    Seller:
    my-vinyl (491 )

    99.8% Positive Feedback
    Member since Jan-17-09 in United States
    Location: IL, United States

29. Terry on August 19th, 2009 6:55 pm

    Fake or not??

    TOOL**LATERALUS (LIMITED EDITION)**VINYL LP
    Item condition: —
    Time left: 25 days 9 hours (Sep 14, 200904:21:31 PDT)

    Price: US $39.95 Buy It NowBuy It NowBuy It Now
    Returns: No Returns Accepted

    Coverage: Pay with and your full purchase price is covered | See terms

    Seller info
    soundcitybeaches ( 398647) 99.8%
    Visit store: Sound City Internet
    Item number: 290340150677
    Item location: Concord, Ontario, Canada
    Ships to: Worldwide

30. admin on August 19th, 2009 7:04 pm

    Terry, that item is real:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/TOOL-LATERALUS-LIMITED-EDITION-VINYL-LP_W0QQitemZ290340150677QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMusic_on_Vinyl?hash=item43999f1d95&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

31. Terry on August 20th, 2009 7:39 pm

    Record store in Santa Cruz selling 10,000 Days LP….

    TOOL 10,000 DAYS LP Brand New Record VINYL
    Item condition: —

    Time left: 2 days 11 hours (Aug 23, 200907:27:55 PDT)

    Quantity: 3 available
    Please enter a quantity of $quantity$ or less
    Please enter a quantity of 1

    Price: US $65.00 Buy It NowBuy It NowBuy It Now

    Seller info
    metamusiconline ( 11203) 100%
    Ask a question
    See other items
    Visit store: METAMUSICONLINE

    Other item info
    Item number: 370248025340
    Item location: 95060, United States
    Ships to: United States
    Payments: PayPal See details
    History: 2 sold

32. ANDY on August 27th, 2009 2:11 pm

    I have bought both the 10,000 days and the Aenima bootlegs. Both do have great sound, The 10,000 days is def a rip of cd. It has pauses before songs where they would merge together. The packaging does suck on all, my Aenima cover is all wonky and warped. It is lame that these are boots, but i dont think many of us vinyl collecters have any other choice. I think if the band was concerned in any way about this they would just release and re-release real ones…

33. admin on August 27th, 2009 2:38 pm

    Good points Andy…and I agree with you on the band not caring point. Tool show time and time again that they really don’t give a crap about fans…they are one of those bands that like the money, but not the fame. I had a disagreement with some guy on a New Zealand auction site the other day…there was a listing for 10,00 days vinyl…the auction went over $150…and the bidders didn’t even care that it was a bootleg…I think it is crazy to pay that sort of money for a bootleg…that person will be gutted when they see the production value of the actual product that arrives.

34. Jake on September 4th, 2009 8:14 pm

    Bootleg or actual album?

    TOOL Lateralus 2-LP Vinyl Picture Disc Sealed!

    Item condition: —

    Time left: 5 days 17 hours (Sep 10, 200913:58:13 PDT)

35. Dan on September 6th, 2009 5:14 pm

    Hey admin, did you say that this record is a genuine m8? I’ve seen auctions for very similiar looking albums which I believed were bootlegs?

36. Dan on September 6th, 2009 5:14 pm

    Whoops, forgot link – http://cgi.ebay.com/TOOL-LATERALUS-LIMITED-EDITION-VINYL-LP_W0QQitemZ290340150677QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMusic_on_Vinyl?hash=item43999f1d95&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

37. admin on September 6th, 2009 7:15 pm

    Dan that item is real! Not bootleg at all.

38. Dan on September 7th, 2009 3:26 am

    Thanks admin! It’s ordered and should be on its way at some point this year
    I’ll let you all know how it sounds. (Though my knowledge is severly limited being only my 2nd ever vinyl!)
    Dan

39. Dan on September 7th, 2009 11:01 am

    Hey guys, just quickly, i found this auction on the site http://cgi.ebay.com/rare-tool-vinyl-lps-10000-days-aenima-lateralus_W0QQitemZ150370176696QQcmdZViewItemQQssPageNameZRSS:B:SRCH:US:101 viewed here we can see the same Lateralus album design that i just bought. I can see here that the 10,000 Days is fake and the one below it. So does that mean the Lateralus and the Aenema are bootlegs too? Will that mean that mine is?
    Sorry the confusion all but i want to make sure £40 wasn’t just wasted.

40. Admin on September 15th, 2009 7:33 pm

    Dan, Lateralus in the link you provided is legit, the other 3 look fake. Aenima coould be real, as it is hard to say from the photo…but 10,000 days and Salival vinyls are all fake!

41. nobody on September 17th, 2009 3:24 am

    god damn it, I just bought the Salival pressing off ebay. Oh well, at least I didn’t buy 10,000 days. I hope it gets released on vinyl!

42. nobody on September 17th, 2009 3:26 am

    god damn it, i just bought Salival off ebay. At least I didnt buy 10,000 days. I hope it gets released on vinyl!

43. Scooterface on September 18th, 2009 6:23 pm

    Terry on August 20th, 2009 7:39 pm (10,000 days)

    Terry this is a freakin’ bootleg. It came unsealed although “new” I thought. Label around spinle show faint lines (like the user couldn’t hit the hole when mounting.” Vicarious had scratch but very bearable. All are bootleg. I look at it this way, even at bootleg, they are still collectable. Use your own judgement. If there ever is a legit release….I will be on it!

44. tally on September 24th, 2009 10:30 pm

    there are aenima rereleases on blue vinyl sold in record stores in the UK. the reports here say green and yellow edition are unofficial fakes, but what about the blue vinyl release?

45. admin on September 24th, 2009 11:55 pm

    Fake Fake Fake!

46. Terry on September 25th, 2009 8:13 pm

    I’ve emailed several of these douchbags selling fakes on Ebay and suprisingly, a couple actually replied back!

    Like this one – TOOL 10,000 DAYS LP LIMITED EDITION VINYL RECORD 10000
    Item Id: 160359063844
    End time: Sep-28-09 12:16:21 PDT

    I told him I thought the vinyl he was selling was fake/counterfeit, and received this back:

    “A few weeks ago it became available on auralexploits.com.
    It is still listed on their website but it is sold out. Go too auralexploits.com and search tool and you will find the listing.”

    Here’s the best example of “Oh, it’s not MY fault, I don;t know what I’m selling…”
    TOOL 10,000 DAYS RARE LTD BLUE VINYL 2LP RARE TRKS MINT
    Item Id: 280394802014
    End time: Sep-16-09 14:16:00 PDT

    Again, I said these were fake copies of the album since they aren’t even out yet:, and this is the unbelievable answer I got in return:
    THANKS, I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT TOOL, WE BUY FROM A DISTRIBUTOR, EVERYTHING UNUSUAL SELLS, TOOL FANS KNOW WHAT THEY WANT AND WHAT THINGS ARE FAR MORE THAN I DO. AS I UNDERSTAND IT FROM INFORMED FANS JUST LIKE YOU, THERE ARE MULTIPLE COLORS OF THIS TITLE AND WE TRY TO FIND THOSE FOR THEM. I MAKE NO JUDGEMENT CALL OR EDITORIAL CRITIQUE! THANKS AGAIN & GOOD LUCK IN YOUR SEARCH.

    Another example of “BUYER BEWARE”!!!!

47. James on October 3rd, 2009 4:04 am

    what an excellent website! finally somewhere with some sound advice! i am too in the same situation as a lot of the visitors to this site, and will certainly not be attempting to purchase aenima or 10,000 days until they hopefully get issued/re-issued.

    i dont care how good the vinyl bootlegs are, by definition they are coming from a low quality source, even CD is not going to give you any advantages on a vinyl record.
    so unless you really dont care about the audiophile advantages of vinyl quality, dont buy a bootleg! its just a cd on a big plastic disk!

48. Ben on October 14th, 2009 4:35 pm

    Heartland Records in Melbourne has a copy of the lateralus Blue vinyl bootleg ($60) & the Savital bootleg ($80), the guy who worked there didnt giove a rats when i told him he was selling bootlegs at inflated prices. Also Ive enquired in the Tool webpage (no responce yet) why Opiate & Undertow have been re-released and easily attanable yet Aenima isnt? Fortunatly i brought a copy back in 1997 and still kicking myself I opened it and played it to death.

49. Chris on November 3rd, 2009 5:29 pm

    I just purchased a Lateralus LP Vinyl autographed by the band, I guess it was offered on the toolarmy website. How can I tell if it is authentic and not a fake?

50. admin on November 3rd, 2009 5:45 pm

    There are legit copies of Lateralus autographed vinyl, figuring out if your copy is legit is hard though. Maynards sig is very easy to fake. I don’t think they came with any sort of authenticity cert or anything. Use the follow page as a guide…there are a whole heap of different designs…looks like they had a bit of fun with these:
    http://www.speleorovers.org/fourtheye/signed_lateralus_gallery/

51. Chris on November 8th, 2009 11:05 am

    Thanks for the help, I am proud to say I have a real copy of Lateralus vinyl signed by the band. Does anyone know how many copies of these were produced? Any help would be appreciated.

52. Ben on November 11th, 2009 8:00 pm

    Collectors Corner (Swantson St, Melb CBD) has the Aenima Bootleg for $100.00, the print job looks really cheap and blurry. The guy behind the counter has no idea why the price is so high… but did say hardcore fans would pay that much…. If you want one you know where to find it (12/11/2009)

53. GERsom on November 16th, 2009 1:38 am

    I am thinking about buying a copy of the 10000 Days Bootleg on ebay; can somebody tell me about the quality, does it sound goood and is it worth buying?!

54. Terry on December 12th, 2009 9:14 pm

    Any insight into this LP – Is it MP3 sourced?:

    TOOL Silver Tongue Vinyl LP
    SIDE A
    1. Part Of Me (Demo)
    2. Hush (Demo)
    3. Crawl Away (Demo)
    4. Jerkoff (Demo)
    5. Cold & Ugly (Demo) (From the Rare 1991 4-track demo tape “TOOL)
    6. Spasm (Live cover version of a song originally recorded by the band “PEACH”)

    SIDE B
    1. Wrong Way (Live cover version of a Sublime song)
    2. Kill The Revolution (Unreleased demo of a collaboration between Rage Against The Machine and TOOL)
    3. Know Your Enemy (Maynard with Rage Against The Machine)

55. Admin on December 12th, 2009 9:18 pm

    Fake, bootleg, and mp3 sourced!

56. Terry on December 12th, 2009 10:21 pm

    You’re the man Admin!!!
    (Or, not to be sexist, woman.)
    Thanks!

    Terry

57. Michael on December 16th, 2009 4:25 am

    Hello, thanks for an informative site! I stumbled onto this on ebay, a new bootleg?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/TOOL-Tainted-Love-BLUE-Vinyl-LP-Tori-Amos-Puscifer-KISS_W0QQitemZ390130452358QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20091214?IMSfp=TL0912140710002r2994

58. admin on December 16th, 2009 11:30 am

    Michael, there is no way that’s an official release…so bootleg for sure.

59. Ryan on December 17th, 2009 10:14 pm

    Aenima LP on sale on Ebay right now but with deceptive photo, what do you think?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/original-mint-sealed-TOOL-dbl-LP-AENIMA-with-stickers_W0QQitemZ300378427005QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMusic_on_Vinyl?hash=item45eff30e7d

    Original (not reissue) TOOL double LP – AENIMA on ZOO 72445-11087-1.
    Original title sticker on front.
    No reserve.

60. admin on December 17th, 2009 11:06 pm

    Hi Ryan, the sticker looks like the sticker on the original, very hard to say for sure without seeing the vinyl…or perhaps comparing that serial with a real one. It looks legit, but it could be fake!

61. jesse on December 25th, 2009 1:24 am

    man these bootlegs rule. I’ll buy the real ones when they come out. but i gotta say i love both reissues for aenima and 10000 days

62. dbone on February 1st, 2010 12:37 pm

    DO NOT Order Anything From AURALEXPLOITS.COM !! They will send out partial shipments, don’t use tracking numbers, take forever to send out orders, refuse to answer their phones – and they will steal your money!

    Google them for other reviews – THEY SUCK

63. Blue Agave on February 4th, 2010 6:23 am

    Ænima – Green Limited Edition Reissue

    * I bought this mint two LP set knowing that it was not the official release. The only official release of this record is on black vinyl and there has never been an official reissue. I was also able to compare this to the original.

    Both LP’s are bright green and you can see through them for the most part. There are some cloudy/milky parts within the vinyl that don’t make it totally clear. There are also tiny specks of what look like black vinyl embedded in each record.

    The cover is made of a thin rough material that is not like a typical album cover. It is flimsy and actually buckles when you handle it. The insert artwork is also a cheap reproduction of the original.

    When I played each record they had an unusual tap or bump sound as it rotated. The culprit was multiple excess vinyl tabs on the edge of each record. The only way to fix this was to file the edges of the records to be completely round. Once filed down each of the records played fine.

    Upon listening the records are obviously not pressed from the master recordings. They appear to be from CD when compared to the full and deep sound of the original pressing.

    It’s obvious that the Ænima – Green Limited Edition Reissue is a cheap reproduction attempting to capitalize on the expensive nature of acquiring the original pressing.

    The original pressing of Ænima sounds absolutely terrific so don’t be fooled by this or any other cheap reproductions.

    Label: Zoo Entertainment (3)
    Catalog#: 72445-11087-1
    Format: 2 x Vinyl, LP, Album, Unofficial Release, green
    Country: US
    Released:
    Genre: Rock
    Style: Prog Rock, Heavy Metal

    Tracklist
    A1 Stinkfist 5:11
    A2 Eulogy 8:29
    A3 H. 6:03
    A4 Useful Idiot 0:39
    B1 Forty Six & 2 6:03
    B2 Message To Harry Manback 1:53
    Keyboards [Uncredited] – David Bottrill

    B3 Hooker With A Penis 4:34
    B4 Intermission 0:56
    Organ [Uncredited] – Eban Schletter

    B5 Jimmy 5:24
    C1 Die Eier Von Satan 2:17
    Vocals [Uncredited] – Marko Fox

    C2 Pushit 9:56
    C3 Cesaro Summability 1:26
    C4 Ænima 6:40
    D1 (-) Ions 4:00
    D2 Third Eye 13:47
    Synthesizer [Uncredited] – Chris Pitman

    Credits
    Performer [Uncredited] – Adam Jones , Danny Carey , Justin Chancellor , Maynard James Keenan
    Producer [Uncredited] – David Bottrill , Tool (2)
    Notes
    Gatefold packaging.

    On back:
    The BMG and Zoo Entertainment logos are trademarks of BMG Music • ? © 1996 BMG Music • All Rights Reserved • Manufactured and Distributed by BMG Entertainment, New York, NY • Printed in U.S.A. • 72445-11087-1

64. jesse on February 8th, 2010 3:01 pm

    Has anyone heard of a tool undertow picture disc? Is it fake?, Is it real and is it rare because i have one.

65. admin on February 8th, 2010 3:10 pm

    I haven’t heard of one Jesse…if you post an image we could know for sure…all the picture disc are from Ænima era. There is a Lateralus one too. But the limited edition undertow vinyl are the Grey and Clear releases.

66. jesse on February 8th, 2010 3:53 pm

    I got it from hot topic so i’m pretty sure it’s real, i was just wondering if it was rare or worth anything?

67. admin on February 8th, 2010 4:13 pm

    Without an image there is not much I can offer you. There is a sober single picture disc from the undertow era.

68. jesse on February 8th, 2010 6:09 pm

    i will send one tomorrow. How do i put a picture on hear off of my digital camera?

69. Admin on February 8th, 2010 6:13 pm

    You can email it to my email address….it’s at the top of the page…[email protected]…I will add it to the post for others to see. Cheers

70. jesse on February 8th, 2010 8:02 pm

    What happened was my wife got sidetrakked w my kid and didnt pick it up for me, but shes going back over tomorrow and getting it for me, i was just wondering if i should have her pick it up for me they want 12.00 for it. I dont know if its a hot topic exclusive, repress or what. Do you think i should buy it?

71. Pete on February 23rd, 2010 8:23 pm

    Glad I googled this before leaping into a purchase of 10000 Days on Vinyl! Cheers

    Does anyone know if they are going to release it officially?

    Does anyone know if they’re ever going to release a live in Concert DVD??? I know they shy away from the spotlight/commercial “success”, but fark man, every Tool fan and his dog who has seen them live is gagging for a DVD of one of their shows! SELL LIKE HOTCAKES!!! haha

72. Pete on February 23rd, 2010 8:27 pm

    I also want a copy of Aenima, but how are you ever to tell a real from a fake? The fake re-issues are all coloured, right, blue, green or yellow…the original legitmate release was only on black vinyl?

    PS – does reporting these actions on eBay ever actually acheieve anything, aside from killing time! lol

73. admin on February 25th, 2010 2:48 pm

    It’s hard with Aenima… have a read at some of the comments on the site.

74. Todd on March 21st, 2010 6:40 am

    I recently got a MetaMusicOnline ebay listing of four fake Tool records removed because I came to this site as a reference. It took a couple of months haggling with Ebay to get around to it, but it’s worth it in the end to get this thievery stopped. Thanks for the help Toolvinyl.com, Todd

75. Todd on March 21st, 2010 6:45 am

    I sent a complaint to BBB against MetaMusicOnline, Phoned Paypal to let them know, and Phoned Ebay and talked to an actual person and found out how to submit a report. Then I also went on the actual listing on Ebay and “reported” it at least 3 times. It can be done, but yes it takes some work and time… but like I said before, way worth it to give that guy what he deserved. He’s not going to jail or anything for stealing this music and making money off of it, but at least he can’t take advantage of unsuspecting people anymore.

76. Hamza on March 21st, 2010 9:07 pm

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Tool-Salival-2x-Vinyl-LP-Record-very-rare-out-of-print_W0QQitemZ330387798039QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMusic_on_Vinyl?hash=item4ceca5b817

    hey i was wondering if the salival LP in the above link is original
    and i want to know if they’ve actually ever made a vinyl release for salival

    cheers

77. Todd on April 1st, 2010 11:52 am

    Hamza the Salival vinyl you are looking at is a fake. They have never released it on vinyl to my knowledge. That is one of the fakes that is homeade that is being passed around. Put inside fancy wrapping to make it look good, don’t get fooled.

78. Hamza on April 18th, 2010 11:52 pm

    Hey Todd,
    Thanks a ton, you saved me a good 50 dollars

    If you dont mind, i have another question for you…
    is this original by any chance….cuz the seller is top rated and it seems original

    http://cgi.ebay.com/TOOL-Lateralus-Limited-Edition-Picture-Disc-Vinyl-Album_W0QQitemZ180492533615QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMusic_on_Vinyl?hash=item2a06317f6f

79. Shawn on May 4th, 2010 11:21 am

    A slightly different edition of Aenima has been added to Aural Exploits:

    https://www.auralexploits.com/product09_7628.htm

    “Tool
    Aenima – Limited edition 180 Gram vinyl

    Label: BMG
    Country: EU

    Limited edition re-issue on 180 Gram black vinyl.

    Pressed on double vinyl housed in a gatefold sleeve.”

    I was unable to find any information about this elsewhere. Probably fake?

80. Todd on May 8th, 2010 3:36 pm

    Auralexploits.com is another site that is passing off fake vinyls. I feel bad for Tool.

81. Todd on May 8th, 2010 3:37 pm

    Wondering if anyone can tell me a good site to confirm the small record numbers on the inside edge of a vinyl. Found an Aenima with B00000099X, trying to confirm authenticity.

82. Todd on May 8th, 2010 3:39 pm

    Hamza those picture discs are all good. You can get one at Hastings music or anywhere, I have one myself. Really cool. The only ones that you can truly trust in buying are Undertow, Opiate and Lateralus.

83. Hamza on May 28th, 2010 7:59 am

    hey there
    thanks man
    i bought it
    should arrive in a week’s time

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85. Rick on June 3rd, 2010 8:09 am

    Hamza and Todd,

    I bought the one of the sealed Lateralus Picture Discs LPS Hamza posted.

    Why does it say copyright 2000 on the back when lateralus came out in May 2001?

    Let me know

86. Rick on June 3rd, 2010 8:10 am

    also, I bought it from the exact same seller “wearefunseller”

87. Admin on June 3rd, 2010 4:58 pm

    Ben – operation_goodguys on Ebay contacted me to have one of the above comments removed…I checked out his listings and he seems to be one of the main bootleggers on Ebay…selling all the rubbish 10,000 days and ‘Aenima’ Colour vinyl…and making a killing from them. Stay well away from his auctions. … or even better report his auctions as replicas.

88. Richard on June 14th, 2010 4:28 pm

    I just bought Lateralus at “Everybodys Records” in Cincinnati and I now think it’s a fake from what I’m reading. It has one clear disc and one yellow disc. Has anyone seen this and can anyone confirm it’s a fake?

89. admin on June 14th, 2010 5:35 pm

    It’s fake for sure Richard, can you take a photo and send it to me, I will add the photo to the post so everyone else can see it, and not make the same mistake. Cheers

90. James on June 15th, 2010 11:01 pm

    Wish I had seen this site a week ago. I just bought both Ænima and 10,000 Days from operation_goodguys on eBay. I just paid $130 for two records that are worth basically nothing.

    Having said that, I’m not too disappointed. I’m no audiophile so I can’t tell the difference between a bootleg and an original. And as much as I’d love to own a legit copy of Ænima on vinyl, I’m not quite willing to pay the hundreds of dollars to get one.
    Both bootlegged copies of 10,000 Days and Ænima that I received look great, anybody who hasn’t visited this site wouldn’t know they were fake. And the sound is good quality too (my only beef is that there’s a gap between Lost Keys and Rosetta Stoned, they don’t segue properly).
    Perhaps the best bit about owning these fakes is that I have no qualms about playing them. If they were legit I wouldn’t want to touch them, let alone play them. So I’ll get plenty of enjoyment out of the fakes.

    So thats something to think about. Make sure you’re aware what you’re buying before you commit. But these bootlegs will give me plenty of good times while I wait for a legitimate release of 10,000 Days on vinyl and the live DVD we’re all waiting for.

91. admin on June 15th, 2010 11:12 pm

    Thanks for the comments James. Plenty of people are buying those 10,000 days bootlegs! I think the live DVD is a dream though… That’s been in the pipes for years.

92. jezza on June 16th, 2010 4:25 am

    hey hows it going, just wondering if you can tell me if aenima original came out in black vinyl, i bought one from NEWLPS and it looks good, the art work is good there is extra art work in the sleaves, but the vinyls ( double lp) are yellow and another colour the paper around the middle of the vinyl is not good, is it a fake? and can you tell me if they ever brought out salival on vinyl and if so how to spot a fake
    cheers

93. admin on June 16th, 2010 5:30 pm

    Hi Jezza, there is no official Salival on vinyl, so they are all fake. The Yellow Aenima copies are fake also. Check out the buyers guide for more info on the actual offical vinyl releases. Cheers.

94. Krieg on July 12th, 2010 5:36 pm

    hi, i’ve visited this page to find out more about real and fakes about tool LP, today i was searching on ebay and found the item posted in the next link

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Tool-Aenima-2x-LP-Ltd-Ed-Gatefold-w-2-inserts-oop-/160454731243?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item255bd8e5eb

    for what i know it has to be a bootleg because its on colored vinyl, but this one has something that the others don’t, the others ones i have seen only have one inner sleeve with the “eye” now this one has both inner sleeves and also the record label in the center of both vinyls looks like the real ones, if the vinyls werent in color i’d thought this was the real deal!! or is there an original version of aenema in colored vinyl?

    thx

95. Aaron on July 16th, 2010 11:32 am

    I was visiting LA and went to Amoeba Records in Hollywood. To my surprise, they had 2 copies of Aenima for sale for $35 each. I grabbed one, even though I assumed it was a bootleg. (Sidenote, they had an “original” pressing autographed by the band for $400 behind the register.)

    The copy I bought looks completely legitimate. I compared the numbers and whatnot from this site to the back of the packaging and everything matches. I opened it up and the first disc was black so I thought I might have came across a miracle find. Then I got to the second disc and it was an orange disc. Was very sad.

    Anyways, this bootleg one that I purchased has all of the inserts. The Third Eye, Band Pics, Bill Hicks and Blue Man are all there. To anyone who doesn’t know any better it looks 100% legit. I have yet to listen to it, but for $35 I’m not too ticked off that it’s a fake.

96. ryan w. on July 28th, 2010 5:44 am

    hey,
    there are fake aenima BLACK vinyls. so not just the originals are black. the fake black ones have white inner sleeves.stay away from them.
    also there is an undertow picture disc. Prison Sex/Sober 12″ Picture Disc. made in the UK. 1993
    just so you know

97. Simon on August 2nd, 2010 4:09 am

    I am aware, of course, of all the bootlegs/counterfiets going around but what I don’t understand is what’s the big deal? If I can’t find my vinyl because it is too expencive or unavailable I will be happy to buy a bootleg. The sound is great, the cover looks almost the same and as for coloured vinyl, the more the better. I am a collcetor and if Toll do not want to release vinyl that’s their problem.
    Just my humble opinion.

98. Richard on August 3rd, 2010 4:42 pm

    As a followup on my June 14 discovery of “Everybodys Records” in Cincinnati selling me a fake of Lateralus. I took it back and the guy(seemed to be an owner) kept saying it was not a fake. He was real pushy telling me over and over, It’s not a Fake. It’s not a Fake. When I gave him all the facts, he got pissed and jerked my credit card out of my hand, gave me my money back and told me to never come back in the store. It was pretty cool. I’m banned from Everybodys Records. I told him on the way out, that he just lost alot of money. He ran out the door after me yelling at me. It was awesome. I’m just thankful this website was here.
    What is the website that shows all copies of all albums and what to look for in fakes? I got that from this website but now I can’t find it. It was an awesome site for sure.

99. jezza on August 25th, 2010 4:35 pm

    hi simon, i bought aenima and ten thousand days on vinyl and was told that they were originals, but then i find out that they are both fake, that realy pissed me off and so do bootlegers, they are making money off someone elses hard work., if tool havent brought out an album on vinyl i dont want it, ive been a tool fan from the very start, and if they dont bring out an album on vinyl thats their decision and i respect that, its the fucking bootlegers getting around selling tool vinyl that the art work and general look and feel of the album is shit and real tool fans wouldnt piss on it, that ive got no respect for what so ever!! just my opinion though

100. Loz on August 27th, 2010 8:17 pm

     Hi, I just came across this site all the comments are so helpful!
     In 2000 I bought a white vinyl of prison sex for $20 AU, it looks very legit but now I’m not so sure after this. If you need a pic let me know.
     Any help would be great.

101. admin on August 27th, 2010 8:24 pm

     Hi Loz, Check out the full vinyl buyers guide: http://toolvinyl.com/tool-vinyl-buyers-guide/ – The white prison sex vinyl is legit.

102. Loz on August 27th, 2010 8:36 pm

     I just saw it! And it even has the fat lady card inside, quite chuffed… On the down side however I’ve just realised I was sucked into the bootleg salival a few years ago. Got it from rare records in stkilda.. The owner seemed a really genuine guy tho, ohwell all my others are real which i’m thankful for. Appreciate ur help, will be sure to check back here for hints in the future!

103. Lolli on September 11th, 2010 11:25 am

     Hey,

     I hope someone can help. I wanted to purchase this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170538034994 for my boyfriend but I don’t have a clue about what is real or fake vinyl, it’s all new to me. Could someone tell me if this is real? Thanks to anyone who can help.

104. jezza on September 13th, 2010 5:50 pm

     hi lolli, if its the limited edition lateralus picture disc, it looks just like my one i bought a cple of years ago, its the real deal, but you can go to, soundstage direct, or amazon.com and get it tommorow for a reasonable price instead of waiting twenty five days in a bidding war, check them out and let me know how you go

105. Lolli on September 15th, 2010 5:36 am

     Hi jezza,

     Thanks for helping out! I’m in the UK so it would probably be easier getting it from a website, or shop, here (cheaper delivery, etc.). The seller does have a shop and it’s a buy it now item. Bidding wars can be crazy – saw a Pearl Jam vinyl I wanted to get for him but it went for too much (in my opinion ). I didn’t realise there were fake vinyls about and it got me worried. Thanks again for your help and I’ll let you know how I get on.

106. jezza on September 15th, 2010 7:42 pm

     no dramas lolli, this website is an awsome guide to weed out the bootleggers, ive seen salival vinyl for 150 bucks on a store website, and tool havent brought out salival on vinyl, if i hadnt found this website i would have bought it, so it pays to be careful

107. Christopher on September 20th, 2010 11:41 pm

     I just picked up a copy of Aenima this evening at a small record store in Orange County, California. I’m just curious if any of the official copies of Aenima came in any other colors other than black. The copy I purchased is on clear red vinyl. The catalog number on it is 72445 11087. I’m just curious if it’s a legit copy. It won’t be a huge loss if it’s not because I only payed $36 for it. If anyone knows the answer to this it would be awesome, thanks!

108. admin on September 20th, 2010 11:57 pm

     Sorry Christopher… Bootleg for sure. Regardless of the catalog no. There are only black vinyl copies.

109. andrè on October 2nd, 2010 10:27 am

     hello, just got a aenima vinyl in the mail. Bought it from ebay.
     The vinyl is black, but there is no picture of bill hicks or the blue man.
     72445-11087 on the vinyl itself and 72445-11087

     Fake?

110. Brian on October 3rd, 2010 7:05 pm

     I recently purchased a Lateralus Picture Disc from ebay. As far as I knew, there were no fake copies of the pic disc. After the fact of me winning the item, the seller said it was a re-issue. I know it wasn’t officially re-issued so the seller was using a cute name for bootleg. I looked at the sellers feedback and see that they already sold a bunch of these over the years and even have another one up now. My question is….is this a bootleg and is there a way to tell a difference between the 2? The one I bought had a picture that the seller took with their phone so the it doesn’t look as good as it should and you can’t really see the spiral background on the pic disc. Someone please help so I can refuse the package and get a refund if it’s indeed a fake. I couldn’t really find any info on fakes of the pic disc version

     Here’s a link to the above mentioned item that I purchased:

     http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260670162224&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

     Thanks!

111. admin on October 3rd, 2010 8:19 pm

     Hi Brian, I have one of these promo discs and it should have LATER1-1 etched into the vinyl. I wasn’t aware of any bootlegs for this vinyl. It’s listed right at the bottom of the tool vinyl buyers guide: http://toolvinyl.com/tool-vinyl-buyers-guide/

112. Brian on October 3rd, 2010 9:24 pm

     Thanks for the reply. The seller told me it’s a re-issue (after I bought) and he is selling the Aenima and 10,000 Days bootlegs so I’m guessing it is. Wish I checked the other auctions he was selling before I purchased. Plus, this same seller has sold tons of this Pic Disc over the years and I don’t see how one single person could have acquired that many. I am so damn sick of bootleggers.

113. Brian on October 16th, 2010 12:37 am

     Turns out that the Lateralus pic disc I purchased was INDEED A BOOTLEG. They refunded my money, thankfully, but they are still selling many boots. Sellers name on ebay is “my-vinyl” so you folks may want to avoid that seller if using ebay. Everyone please note that there IS a bootleg Lateralus pic disc floating around for sure. The bootleg version has horrible coloring and the color doesn’t “pop” like the orginal. Also, the nice spiral background is almost non-existent on the bootleg.
     Everyone have a good one

114. Toolboogie on October 16th, 2010 6:30 am

     I have two Lateralus promo picture discs and one has way better colors and sharper letterprinting than the other. Also the “3D” effect/spiral is much better visible. However the one that is, in my opinion, the “bootleg”, has a (faint) matrix and the “real” one has not. At least, I can’t find it. Anyone knows exactly how to tell real from counterfeit on this one?

115. Melanie on December 4th, 2010 4:21 am

     Hi! I was looking for Lateralus vinyl on ebay and came across this auction, can anyone help me and tell me if it is original?

     http://cgi.ebay.it/TOOL-Lateralus-LIMITED-2-x-Picture-VINYL-LP-SEALED-/200547767696?pt=UK_Records&hash=item2eb1941590

     I also wrote to the seller as this site reccomend and he answered me back that It is the current press on USA Sublime with hologram sleeve.

     I can’t find anything on the web about this press. Can I be sure it’s the official one??

     Thanks for helping

116. admin on December 4th, 2010 11:30 am

     Hi Melanie…the sticker on the front and the cover reassure me that the copy is legit…not a bootleg.

117. Brett_Wilson on December 4th, 2010 4:36 pm

     Hi Guys,

     I’ve recently bought my first two ‘Tool’ Vinyls: ‘Undertow’ and ‘Lateralus’. I got both off E-Bay. Something didn’t seem kosher about the packaging of ‘Lateralus’, so a little hunting on google showed me this site. ‘Undertow’ is the legit 2004 re-issue, but ‘Lateralus’ is a bootleg.

     What I have isn’t in the bootleg list on this site, though. Mine is a double blue vinyl. The front and back of the outer sleeve are obviously scans of the CD version. The inner sleeves are plain white paper. The vinyl labels are pictures of the front cover.

     Whilst I have absolutely no doubt that it is a bootleg, it’s bloody good. The two records are 180g (This my first bootleg, so i’m guessing, but I can’t imagine many copies using heavyweight vinyl). But, most importantly, the sound is fantastic. No background hiss. No crackles or pops. Also, I have a feeling this might have been bootlegged from the legit vinyl and not ripped from the CD version, because there is more detail here than what is on my CD version.

     If you can’t get the legit version, i’d recommend this bootleg. I paid £20 for mine.

     Have you heard of this bootleg before, Admin?

118. Jordan Munson on December 8th, 2010 7:29 pm

     So, like these other people, I’m resorting to just asking about a particular vinyl which I think may be a fake, though I’ve not found any conclusive evidence. Hell, I didn’t even know Tool LP counterfeiting was a big deal until I tried to find pressing info about the LP…

     Here’s the eBay link:
     http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=140475007726&si=krsMmqlO2fUig%252BYNwvtKAcAiWoE%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_2567wt_907

119. admin on December 9th, 2010 3:06 am

     Fake for sure Jordan.

     Look for the sticker on the front of the Lateralus LP.

120. Kevin on December 28th, 2010 5:20 pm

     Can anyone comment on the sound quality of the $36 aenima bootleg at amoeba records?? I bought one today but won’t be able to listen to it for a week.

121. Aled on December 29th, 2010 4:58 pm

     Hi all,

     I presume this Lateralus is legit?

     http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tool-Lateralus-Limited-Edition-Deluxe-2xPic-Disc-Set-/390272093924?pt=UK_Records&hash=item5ade078ee4

     Many thanks!

122. admin on December 30th, 2010 12:18 pm

     That’s legit Aled

123. Aled on December 30th, 2010 1:24 pm

     Many thanks chief!

     Aled.

124. dan on January 3rd, 2011 12:54 am

     own 10000 days and aenima bootlegs sound decent. legit lateralus takes the win tho for depth

125. Brian on January 5th, 2011 12:45 am

     Everyone watch out for this @$$hole on ebay. He is trying to sell the bootleg Aenima as an original sealed version. I tried calling him on his BS and he said he bought it just recently at Amoeba for $30. Yeah…Amoeba sells originals for $30….they have an original at one of their other stores for $400. BEWARE of this stupid shady seller everyone:

     http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130471886385&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123

126. Andrea Martens on January 9th, 2011 10:28 pm

     Hi Admin,

     I’ve got a question about Tool’s Lateralus vinyl that I’m trying to resell. It is still in the original plastic wrap, in mint condition. I am trying to determine its value without unwrapping it. I would like to know if it is a legit signed copy.

     I’ve checkout out the postings on this site and a few other articles to know what the “real” album should look like, and everything matches, but I am wondering if the catalog numbers on the back could identify if it is signed or not.

     There are two slightly different numbers on the back.
     The number on the plastic wrap, a white sticker with a barcode reads: 6-14223-11601-3

     The number that is printed directly on the back of the album case reads: 61422-3116-1 LP

     If the only answer is to open it, I can do that, but would it greatly diminish the value of this vinyl?

     I really appreciate any advice you can give.

127. dilo on January 11th, 2011 6:22 pm

     i bought the salival lp at amobea in L.A. this summer…. it’s a fake…so u know. and i found 10000 days and lateralus in London Camden…fake also

128. VJ on January 25th, 2011 9:20 pm

     Thank you for your fantastic site!!

     I just have one question that I would love answered.
     Did Tool EVER cover Comfortably numb by Pink Floyd??
     And, if so, was it ever released on any of their vinyls?

     I’m certain this is not true but I would just like to deliver a “I told you so” to a few people who believe it to be otherwise

     Thanks.

129. admin on January 25th, 2011 9:37 pm

     Hi VJ,

     The version of Comfortably numb you will find floating around on file sharing sites is not tool, even though it is often labeled as such. It’s actually an early demo of the song done by Gilmour. So if you see it on vinyl, then that vinyl is a bootleg. The “Parabol – Limited edition colored vinyl” which is a bootleg we have listed above has the song on it, which should give you an idea of what a crap bootleg it is.

130. VJ on January 25th, 2011 10:09 pm

     Thank you very much!!. Keep up the good work, much appreciated!.

131. Brian on January 25th, 2011 10:26 pm

     Yet ANOTHER shady thing is going on at ebay these days. People are selling Aenima with “Original?” in the title. The same seller has done it twice so far. He plays dumb to the fact that he doesn’t know if it’s official or a bootleg. Even makes up a story of when he bought it. At least most the sellers on ebay list it as color vinyl (not saying it’s ok to sell em, just not misleading). Here’s an example from the seller “terrie_keenan”

     http://cgi.ebay.com/TOOL-Aenima-12-vinyl-record-ORIGINAL-Record-LP-/200568006779?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item2eb2c8e87b

     Just by the way he listed his bootleg with the shady description, he duped someone into paying $190 for the bootleg that sells for $40-$60. Most people should be tipped off to it being the bootleg by the lack of sticker and lack of ring wear or anything that a sealed copy of a record that old should have. I know most of us already are aware that things like this go on but I just like to keep bringing these things up to hopefully help newer collectors that may not know all they should yet.

     Ebay irritates the hell outta me since they do NOTHING about any bootlegs. I have reported numerous items (sometimes numerous times on the same item if I got time to kill at work), and nothing ever happens. Ebay just doesn’t give a damn as long as they are making their fees. I do encourage all of you to report any bootleg you see (CD, vinyl, whatever) as maybe the more different people they see reporting, the more chance they actually do something.

     Sorry for this mile long diatribe but I just wish something would happen to these sellers. Lots of new collectors are getting screwed…yes they should educate themselves, but still these bootleg sellers get away with whatever. Even local record store and chain record stores carry many bootlegs. Many stores call them “fan club” releases. Ok, I gotta shut up now, hopefully I helped at least one new collector or vinyl lover out there. Take care everybody!

132. Brian on January 25th, 2011 10:43 pm

     By the way Admin, I forgot to add something….

     I mentioned that I bought a Lateralus picture disc on ebay that I ended up thinking was fake since the seller called it a reissue after I bought. Well, I got it and gave it a quick look and it looked really bad, horrible coloring and what not. I returned right away to the seller. I also noticed that the same seller sells numerous other bootlegs. The coloring is just no where near as vibrant as the real one. They were on ebay left and right a few months back but now there’s just one real one up. Here’s a link to a completed bootleg copy from the same seller that I returned one to, she has sold 20+ of these:

     http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=250735806648&si=H9HkG0uFShA1YJDK%252BlvYrBwUbIc%253D&viewitem=

     Anyways, just letting you know so you can maybe add it to the fake vinyl list.

133. Aled on January 27th, 2011 3:22 pm

     Another second opinion would appreciated on this item please!

     http://tinyurl.com/6ffrua9

     Lateralus Promo 12″.

     Any thoughts? Many thanks, and keep up the good work – it’s really appreciated!
     Aled.

134. Brian on January 27th, 2011 3:33 pm

     Aled, that looks like the bootleg one I just mentioned in the comments above you. The colors on it are wrong and not vivid like they should be. Also, the spiral background is barely noticeable, in fact, it looks like it’s not even there. Here’s a link to a real one:

     http://cgi.ebay.com/TOOL-LATERALUS-SAMPLER-12-LTD-EDT-PICTURE-DISC-NEW-/250692340851?pt=AU_Records&hash=item3a5e6d8c73

     Hope that helps, and sorry for responding to so many comments Admin….maybe it’s saving you time though.

135. Aled on January 28th, 2011 8:24 am

     Thanks. I see your point about colour difference, though to complicate matters the description of the item I linked seems to have a legit catalogue number and description. Could it just be a bad picture?

     Confuzzled :s

136. Brian on January 28th, 2011 10:52 am

     Usually bootleg picture discs use the original catalog number as well as they are trying to make their crappy bootlegs look legit. The coloring is off and I don’t think it’s just because of the picture. I actually bought the same one from another seller and got to see it up close and it looks way off from the original. Lucky I got a refund. If I were you, I would avoid the one you linked all together.

137. Aled on January 28th, 2011 12:06 pm

     Damn- I thought I was on to a bargain there! Many thanks for the input, i’ll find a legit copy one day!

138. Andrea on January 30th, 2011 3:18 pm

     About Tool’s Lateralus vinyl…I’m trying to sell a copy that is still in the original plastic wrap, in mint condition.
     How can you tell it’s a signed copy without opening it?
     It has the sticker on the front that signifies it’s not a bootleg.

     I’ve checkout out the postings on this site and a few other articles to know what the “real” album should look like, and everything matches, but I am wondering if the catalog numbers on the back could identify if it is signed or not?
     There are two slightly different numbers on the back.
     The number on the plastic wrap, a white sticker with a barcode reads: 6-14223-11601-3
     The number that is printed directly on the back of the album case reads: 61422-3116-1 LP

     If the only answer is to open it, I can do that, but would it greatly diminish the value of this vinyl?

139. admin on January 30th, 2011 3:20 pm

     Hi Andrea, There is no difference between the original and signed copies. The band just signed some of the regular albums and sold them to toolarmy members. However, to sign that would have had to open the vinyl. So if you vinyl is still sealed, it is not signed.

140. Andrea on January 30th, 2011 8:17 pm

     Thanks for your help!
     Any idea of what should be my asking price?

141. ryan on March 21st, 2011 4:14 pm

     I’m thinking this is one of the fake ones.

     http://cgi.ebay.com/TOOL-LATERALUS-PROMO-VINYL-MINT-NEVER-HANDLED-PLAYED-/320674746933?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item4aa9b45235

142. Brian on March 24th, 2011 12:52 pm

     @ryan

     That looks like the legit copy to me. The main thing is how vibrant the colors are and the fact that the spiral background shows up nicely on the front and back. I bought one that I had to return for being fake and the colors were dark and ugly (just poor quality overall) and the spiral background just barely showed up. My advice to you is to contact the seller and ask him if the item pictured is the actual item for sale. The shady seller I bought from posted a pic of the real deal and sent the poor quality overseas bootleg. Also, $75 is pretty high on the price. You can now find OG originals for $40 and lower due to the influx of the bootlegs. The unfortunate part is many people are buying up the boots as they don’t know any better and don’t do the research on it. Hope this helped you in some way.

     Take care dude, all the best!

143. peter on June 15th, 2011 7:30 pm

     just bought a lateralus 2xLP on Hastings. Hasn’t shown up yet, but I’m hoping they wouldn’t have purchased bootlegs. Any input? Also, is this release on Discogs legit?

     http://www.discogs.com/Tool-Lateralus/release/2137701

     Thanks!

144. thrak on July 14th, 2011 10:39 am

     Hi all,
     I reported on ebay.com ebay.de ebay.co.uk and on allegro.pl over a dozen of tool’s fakes vinyls also I sent emails to some sellers with info what I did f**k the thieves!
     Be aware and don’t buy vinyls ripped from mp3 or cd.
     Greetings from Poland

145. David Green on July 15th, 2011 12:19 am

     I dont see what the problem is. Some collectors like me, LOVE bootlegs. And with the likes of 10,000 days, Tool dont give a fuck about supplying their fans with a vinyl release so someone out there has delivered. SUPPLY AND DEMAND.
     As for Salival, you can get the real one if you want to pay $400-$500 or more or get a bootleg of it for under $100. From what I can tell most of the people selling Bootlegs are not trying to sell them as originals, its clear to any one with half a brain they are bootlegs.
     Perhaps you think TOOL are on the poverty line and are being denied proper payment. In actual fact the only people being hurt in any way would be the Record Company, and they can get f**cked as far as I’m concerned.
     And why is it that its big bands like Tool and Metallica and Led Zep that kick up a fuss. Did you know there are some bands that WELCOME bootlegs, now that is liberating.
     Tool fans with your high and mighty stance on bootlegs are a bunch of whining idiots.
     Some of the bootlegs out there are actually VERY GOOD quality. And as with other bands bootlegs can be very collectable. I hope that is the case with Tool bootlegs and you all rue the day when instead of buying them and watching your purchase go up in value over time, you all got on your soap boxes because Tool were being denied “pennies” .
     The more bootlegs the better I say. I like bootlegs and I resent you lot here denying me what I want to buy. If I KNOW its a bootleg and I WANT to buy it, why shouldnt I beable to?. If you dont want to buy it, then that is fine just dont try and stop me from buying them.

146. James on March 9th, 2012 11:29 am

     The guy above me is a dumbass. Sorry. He would pay good money for someone to just transfer a digital copy from the CD over to a vinyl record? Dumb….. ass. Anyway, I just filed a complaint with Amazon to have them take down some vinyl Salival records. Here’s the link

     http://www.amazon.com/Salival-Tool/dp/B004M7XKCW/ref=sr_1_8_title_1_lp_?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1331316754&sr=1-8

     If you check there and it’s still for sale (got about 6-8 sellers right now) then go ahead and complain again

147. Eric on March 25th, 2012 8:53 pm

     I realize this site is for TOOL vinyl, but I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction. Trust me, I looked and looked via the web…and I cannot find out if the following is real or not. I’ve got the original APC Thirteenth Step, but I’m seeing another one with a nude fold out. Unfortunately, there’s not a site like this for APC…so please forgive for the post. I won’t do it again if you prefer I shouldn’t. As TOOL fans, I thought I’d take a chance.

     eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/PERFECT-CIRCLE-TOOL-LP-ULTRA-RARE-ORIGINAL-PRESS-NUDE-FOLD-OUT-COVER-2003-NM-/230751534942?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item35b9dcff5e

     popsike: http://www.popsike.com/A-PERFECT-CIRCLE-TOOL-LP-ULTRA-RARE-ORIGINAL-PRESS-NUDE-FOLD-OUT-COVER-2003-NM/230709400820.html

     discogs: nothing

148. Ryan on March 30th, 2012 10:29 am

     Anyone see the tool live at lollapalooza? Any more info on this?

149. Brian on March 30th, 2012 6:37 pm

     @Ryan – That’s just another crap, mp3 sourced bootleg. Avoid it.

150. Brian on April 7th, 2012 5:56 pm

     @Eric – I didn’t notice your APC question till now. Don’t buy into that “nude cover” fiasco. All covers are exactly the same for Thirteenth Step.

     This started a few years back with a particular eBay seller who made this up. I can’t remember his user ID but I did call him out on the BS (in a nice manner) and he sent profanity laced responses that were just childish and he dodged all my questions. He actually sold some at an absurd price of $150. Sucks that those people believed his tall tale and didn’t do any research.

     Over the years a few other sellers have mimicked that BS story. In their defense, they may have just looked at PopSike or CollectorsFrenzy and thought the different cover thing was legit. Kinda funny that the seller that currently has one on eBay refuses to accept questions via the eBay messaging system, that’s a red flag of a shady seller IMO. All the jackets feature the same art. The women is nude is every single copy but her private areas are covered by her hair. Compare your jacket to the one in the auction and you will notice that it’s exactly the same. Steer clear of that auction as it’s just the same pressing you can still get at record stores.

     I think it’s a good thing you brought this up as it really hasn’t been mentioned online.

151. Dave on April 25th, 2012 4:18 pm

     I’ve also been duped into buying Aenima and Salival off ebay from sellers who knew they were selling bootlegs. Avoid the seller “ihunt007″ at all costs!

152. itsthezing on May 7th, 2012 9:39 am

     I just want to echo what @Dave said above. Pleas avoid “ihunt007″. He baited me with an “original” copy of Undertow, but when I pressed him for more information (citing this website) he confessed saying that he did not, in fact, have an original. He sent me a free copy of Opiate to appease me, but the entire ordeal was uncomfortable.

153. baraka98 on May 10th, 2012 10:41 pm

     Hey all, my name is AdAm. I just recently was “officially” excited about my Parabol (i now know as a boot because of this site…i’m bummed but relieved) and Silver Tongue Tool Vinyls. I’m still really confused about the Silver Tongue Album…it seems so legit? i’m sure it’s a boot any way but can anyone shed some more light on this topic for me? totally mad i wasted money but i do have a LEGIT copy sealed of Lateralus. I DID DO MY RESEARCH ON THAT ON : ) PLEAS HELP THOUGH ON THE SILVER TONGUE VINYL.

     AdAm

154. Eric on May 11th, 2012 9:03 pm

     @baraka98 – You’re right, it’s a fake or bootleg as some on the internet are calling it. It’s no more legit than a Salival vinyl…there were none created on vinyl (CD/DVD/VHS – ONLY).

     Take a look at this…maybe it’ll help.

     http://www.discogs.com/Tool-Silver-Tongue/release/2009472

     Also, take a look at this closed eBay auction. Read the seller’s comments at the bottom. He/she is determined not to meet in person…seems a bit odd to me…

     http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tool-Silver-Tongue-lp-green-vinyl-perfect-circle-puscifer-hard-rock-/270962114929?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item3f1699c171#ht_500wt_1182

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