Fake Tool Vinyl Guide

Updated: 19th July 2009

I have been getting a fair few emails from people asking questions about tool vinyl whether items are fake or not. So I have put together a "Fake Tool Vinyl Guide". Some of this info I have collected over the years, other stuff and came from Galen, at http://www.collectiveunconscious.org/.

On a side note, I know there are people out there who love tool and want to own anything they can from these guys, but all this stuff below is utter crap. Do not pay money for it, or let anyone you know pay money for it. If you are after rare and interesting recordings from tool there are 100's of recordings available in different circles on the Internet... All you need is a Bittorrent client, and check out a few sites like:

  • thetradersden.org
  • dimeadozen.org

FAKE Tool Vinyl

Album: Stinkfist -  "Eastern European Promo"
Label: "HYA KOH"

This fake / bootleg "promo" copy looks to be like it could, possibly be legit. This has only been on eBay & seems to be sold by one guy from the USA. There is no record of this 'record' ever being produced for any reason.

Stinkfist Fake


Album:
Lateralus - "Rare BLUE Vinyl"
Label: BOOTLEG PRESSING

A poor, poor BOOTLEG that offers nothing but a (probable) CD > Vinyl transfer. The actual release of Lateralus by Tool was mixed differently for the vinyl release. This just a sad & poor attempt at making a bootleg.

lateralus blue FAKE

Album: Lateralus - "Rare DOUBLE Vinyl"
Label: BOOTLEG PRESSING

This is a different version, obviously, from the blue version because it is "more complete" as it is a "double album".

Ebay info: This is a mysterious print of Lateralus LP. This was played only one time by me. The tool logo and the title of the record are printed on a sticker on the cover, maybe you could see in the photo. On the vinyl label there are the tool logo, the Lateralus logo and the songs title. I don’t have any other information about this record.

lateralus double FAKE

Album: Parabol - "Rare Black Vinyl"
Label: BOOTLEG PRESSING - Probably MP3 Sourced

Home-made vinyl pressing. The person or persons who manufactured this have absolutely no idea what they are doing. Side A? Side A would definitely be either the demo's or something live. Side B has to be various stuff *downloaded* via the Internet in the early 2000's. All of this stuff is mp3 sources, and freely available on any p2p network...Limewire, Bittorrent etc

parabol FAKE

Album: Salival - "Rare Vinyl"
Label: BOOTLEG PRESSING

This tends to surface on eBay & also seems to be available both in the land down under but also in Eastern Europe. Description include comments like "Get this rare MINT LP", "TOOL - SALIVAL COLOURED DOUBLE LP "

Album Notes from Blair @ toolband.com:

I've received over a dozen e-mails in the past few days about SALIVAL VINYL being sold on ebay. According to the people writing me, these are advertised as being as rare as hen's teeth (well, as being extremely rare), and can be very pricey (same with the DVD/CD 'box set' - those that aren't even signed by a band member!). For those wondering about the authenticity of the Salival VINYL, I'm fairly certain that these are ALL bootlegs offered for sale by unscrupulous types. As the French might say, this is a travesty. My advice would be to save your hard-earned money, and to keep in mind that I'm not adverse to using an acronym that's also an anagram (where applicable). But, more about this later. Also, some of those emailing about the questionable Salival vinyl are wanting to know about any possible analogue release for 10,000 Days. To this, I'm sorry to say that I've no word yet, but will be sure to post if/when that day comes.

saliva lFAKE

Salival_LP

Album: Tool 'Aenima' Colour Vinyl Reissue LP Gatefold Sleeve
Label: BOOTLEG PRESSING (FAKE)

Notes from Ebay: Limited edition reissue, double LP on coloured vinyl (Yellow or Green). Comes in gatefold sleeve with plain white inners.

Aenima_yellow

green


Album:
Tool 10,000 days new double LP record coloured red ltd
Label: BOOTLEG PRESSING (FAKE)

This is a pretty good attempt at looking official, and sales on Ebay are going well because everyone is waiting for the band to make an official vinyl release of the album. But I assure you this is a bootleg. If/When there ever is an official release of 10,000 days on vinyl there will be news of this of the official band website. There has been no such news yet. Notes from Ebay: New, mint, never played, sealed. This is a limited record: there are only 1000 of it available.

10,000 days_Red

284272396_o

284272635_o

Get items removed from Ebay

If you feel pissed off by the wankers that sell these items on ebay and want to get their auctions removed, here is the page on ebay that talks about items like these...it has a link on it that allows you to report fake items....read here

Now on Ebay:

Tool Lateralus 2x LP Picture Disc Vinyl SEALED Tool Lateralus 2x LP Picture Disc Vinyl SEALED Paypal 4 Bids US $21.35 14h 30m
RARE TOOLS STINKFIST 10 PICTURE DISC PROMO 1996 RARE TOOLS STINKFIST 10 PICTURE DISC PROMO 1996 Paypal 0 Bid US $79.00 1d 5h 19m
TOOL LATERALUS LP PICTURE DISC MINT TOOL LATERALUS LP PICTURE DISC MINT Paypal 4 Bids US $16.51 1d 16h 1m
Tool Cesaro Summability 12 picture disc RARE HTF Tool Cesaro Summability 12 picture disc RARE HTF Paypal 3 Bids US $10.51 1d 20h 19m
TOOL Lateralus 2 LP Ltd Ed Vinyl Picture Disc Set New TOOL Lateralus 2 LP Ltd Ed Vinyl Picture Disc Set New Paypal US $39.95 5d 15h 24m

Comments

102 Responses to “Fake Tool Vinyl Guide”

  1. Douggie_fresh on June 19th, 2009 5:49 am

    Hello,

    I have been seeing a lot of Aenima vinyl reissues latley…there is one that is printed on yellow vinyl and another one on black vinyl. The sleeves bear the Zoo/BMG Logo…but this could mean nothing as I have other bootlegs that have the label on them. I just cant seem to find any info on an official release ANYWHERE! So with that said I cant believe these are legit reissues of Aenima. Any info would help. Also….I didn’t know this, but was there never an official release of Salival on vinyl?

    Thanks!

  2. Sean on June 24th, 2009 4:01 pm

    I have almost all of the tool albums on vinyl. Will there be any reissues of AEnima?

  3. Cecil Gridley on June 27th, 2009 11:04 pm

    I own the Salival Vinyl, I bought it off of eBay this year and it was sealed. Inside it has the record in a standard record case also sealed and on one side a picture of the person gliding from the Stinkfist video and on the other side has the four pronged fork also from the Stinkfist video. The discs are very thick like the Lateralus ones and the color is a light blue marble. LAMC is not on the record because the length would not fit on two discs. They sound amazing and have no flaws.

  4. admin on June 28th, 2009 3:00 am

    Cecil, of all the vinyl bootlegs the Salival one is the most relisitic, but read the comment above from the toolband (official band website). It is a fake!

  5. sean on July 1st, 2009 12:06 am

    I’ve seen the Aenima lp mentioned above on Aural Exploits website, and they just added 10,000 Days! It says it is a promo copy and it’s on colored vinyl. Any idea where these are coming from?! Are they imports? Any info would be great, thanks!

  6. admin on July 1st, 2009 2:29 am

    Hi Sean – The same website lists the parabol vinyl which is a bad bootleg! So I would take a guess that they are fake. There is no mention of a 10,000 days vinyl on toolband.com, and there would be.

  7. tonym on July 1st, 2009 6:56 pm

    I bought the Aenima LP from aural exploits and it is definitely a bootleg. Colored vinyl, with no real labels (just a brief code so you can tell Side A, B, C, and D.) Plain paper sleeves and cover art that clearly wasn’t printed professionally. Sound quality is excellent though, so I’ll probably hold onto it.

  8. Wes on July 2nd, 2009 10:57 pm

    If you press it, they will buy: I know money’s probably not a big deal to the band these days, but how much have they lost by not repressing Aenima? Or not re-issuing the Salival box set? It would be an easy way to make extra cash when they are not touring. They still press Undertow and Opiate??? I bought the crappy fake Lateralus when it was going around, but I got my money back from the seller because it was pressed from an MP3 sourced, Track at Once CD-R, which was extremely frustrating because some of the songs on that album segue into each other. Luckily it finally came out legitimately and was worth the wait. But if whoever is pressing Aenima and 10, 000 Days is doing it properly and the sound is good, more power to them. Maybe the band will wake up and get in gear on this.

  9. nate on July 3rd, 2009 12:22 am

    ive just seen someone selling a 10000 days vinyl on ebay, he mentions that it is produced by tool disectional but i guess if someones going to go to the trouble of pressing a bootleg with labels and cover etc then also adding tool disectional is just topping it off in attempts to show authenticity. i did notice that the spelling of hofmann (lost keys blame hofmann) on this pressing is spelt hoffmann, although spelling mistakes have been known to appear in some of tools other music releases. if anyone can say for sure if this is a bootleg or not, tell me so i can buy it!! and as far as the aenima “re-issue” goes, the only difference i can see in the actual cover is that the cardboard is slightly thinner on the re-issue. and just a heads up, im sure there will be people buying the re-issue and swapping the cover with maybe a not so mint original release cover and selling it like that. i guess theres not much difference except for the principal, and the musty smell of the true original!!

  10. teddy on July 9th, 2009 3:18 pm

    i have a tool vinyl that has a picture on it but can not find it in the internet anywhere where could i go to find out what i have and how much it is worth

  11. kgturner on July 10th, 2009 10:42 pm

    there sure is a shitload of those “ultra rare” 10,000 days vinyl on eBay right now. my bullshit detector is pegged. somebody’s cleaning up on those rare releases which were only released in the uk or usa only depending on whose auction you read.

  12. Nick on July 11th, 2009 2:00 pm

    Hi,
    i to have bought the so called re issue of Aenima,to good to be true?
    yes it is from the slightly fuzzy artwork and writing,to the plain paper inner sleeves.
    But wow the sound quality is great ! i’ll settle for this in the hope Tool see sense and reissue it for real.
    Oh and by the way is the mix different from the cd…i’m sure i heared some different parts on my vinyl copy?
    Nick.

  13. Nick on July 11th, 2009 2:06 pm

    Oh and one more thing,i am new to this site…it may have been said but surely Tool are the only major established band without a live dvd.
    Can you just imagine how good it would be?….Blueray,nice box,artwork,booklet,extras….etc…..ok i’ll shut up.
    Nick.

  14. joel on July 16th, 2009 6:51 pm

    this person on ebay is selling fake tool records his name on ebay is operation_goodguys beware he a rip off too

  15. red alert on July 16th, 2009 8:10 pm

    (eBay )collect_it_all_now —- ya i got the record 10,000 days and fuck he rip off and heaps of marks on it the dealer number -ben
    0394197787 and his nick name on ebay is operation_goodguys

  16. Gary on July 18th, 2009 4:50 am

    Hi all,
    Thanks for all the great info, could anyone let me know if the new bootleg Aenima has a gatefold sleeve ? I understand that the record jackets are plain (shame) but what about other artwork ?
    I agree with all others, I have the Parabola and the quality is dismal :-(

  17. ice -cream man on July 18th, 2009 9:24 pm

    yep there is a new boot leg of Aenima and its shit sound

  18. dirty dog on July 18th, 2009 9:26 pm

    man there a lot of fake tool records off ebay fuck i wish they close down there account

  19. Mathew on July 22nd, 2009 4:11 am

    Hi To all,
    I recently bought a lateralus vinyl that I cant see mentioned here and was wondering if anyone could tell me more about it
    the cover is not holographic and the back cover has a brown eye on it here is one on ebay:

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tool-Lateralus-Vinyl-LP-mint_W0QQitemZ280375636280QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Records?hash=item4147b0b138&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1683%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

  20. admin on July 22nd, 2009 1:26 pm

    Yes, I believe that version is a fake also. I will add it!

  21. Karri on July 27th, 2009 8:06 am

    Does anyone else’s official Lateralus vinyl have really poor sound?
    Mine has very heavy surface noise on it, making it unbearable to
    listen to. It seems that picture discs can be more prone to sound
    imperfections due to their different manufacturing method, but none of my other picture discs are that heavily laced with hisses and the like. Cleaning the record thoroughly did not help at all.

  22. Brendan on July 30th, 2009 5:31 pm

    Hi Karri

    is it possible you need a new needle?

    I’m sure you checked though!

  23. Paul on August 10th, 2009 11:29 am

    Bought the Aenima bootleg in a secondhand shop, knowing that it was a bootleg but the quality is real good so I don’t have anything to complain about (except, that the real Aenima DLP is too damn expensive …)

  24. john on August 11th, 2009 7:33 am

    Mine also sounds bad, you can actually see the warp in the vinyl. I have read others have the same with that problem and that others have ones that sound great. Did you get yours off ebay?

  25. Karri on August 13th, 2009 7:20 am

    Thanks for your replies. I bought the LP from my local record store when it came out. With every needle & cartridge I’ve tried, the record always sounds painful. I guess it’s a part of the nature of vinyl records that some copies can simply become noisy over the manufacturing / assembling / shipping process when they can be exposed to dust & heat etc.

  26. Terry on August 16th, 2009 4:04 pm

    So, what does one do with eBay then? Do you try to file a report to see if eBay will remove these fake recordings? Or, just let the bidders be duped into purchasing counterfit items? Isn’t eBay supposed to do somehting about these f**kheads that sell this shit?

  27. admin on August 16th, 2009 4:12 pm

    Hi Terry, I have added the ebay page that talks about items like this to the bottom of the article and here it is again:
    http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/replica-counterfeit.html

    You can use a link on that page to report listings as fake and the items often get removed.

  28. Terry on August 16th, 2009 6:53 pm

    Thanks admin. I put in a complaint with eBay….probably won’t make a difference. Maybe if more people did, they’d take notice. I feel sorry for the people that get ripped off.

    I emailed this cock knuckle and said that his lp was a fake/counterfit, and actually got a reply back:

    “No, special limited promo offer”
    - my-vinyl Did this answer your question? If not, let the seller know.
    TOOL 10,000 DAYS 2 X LP BLUE VINYL MINT PROMO

    Item Id: 250480530452
    End time: Aug-16-09 15:05:08 PDT
    Seller:
    my-vinyl (491 )

    99.8% Positive Feedback
    Member since Jan-17-09 in United States
    Location: IL, United States

  29. Terry on August 19th, 2009 6:55 pm

    Fake or not??

    TOOL**LATERALUS (LIMITED EDITION)**VINYL LP
    Item condition: —
    Time left: 25 days 9 hours (Sep 14, 200904:21:31 PDT)

    Price: US $39.95 Buy It NowBuy It NowBuy It Now
    Returns: No Returns Accepted

    Coverage: Pay with and your full purchase price is covered | See terms

    Seller info
    soundcitybeaches ( 398647) 99.8%
    Visit store: Sound City Internet
    Item number: 290340150677
    Item location: Concord, Ontario, Canada
    Ships to: Worldwide

  30. admin on August 19th, 2009 7:04 pm
  31. Terry on August 20th, 2009 7:39 pm

    Record store in Santa Cruz selling 10,000 Days LP….

    TOOL 10,000 DAYS LP Brand New Record VINYL
    Item condition: —

    Time left: 2 days 11 hours (Aug 23, 200907:27:55 PDT)

    Quantity: 3 available
    Please enter a quantity of $quantity$ or less
    Please enter a quantity of 1

    Price: US $65.00 Buy It NowBuy It NowBuy It Now

    Seller info
    metamusiconline ( 11203) 100%
    Ask a question
    See other items
    Visit store: METAMUSICONLINE

    Other item info
    Item number: 370248025340
    Item location: 95060, United States
    Ships to: United States
    Payments: PayPal See details
    History: 2 sold

  32. ANDY on August 27th, 2009 2:11 pm

    I have bought both the 10,000 days and the Aenima bootlegs. Both do have great sound, The 10,000 days is def a rip of cd. It has pauses before songs where they would merge together. The packaging does suck on all, my Aenima cover is all wonky and warped. It is lame that these are boots, but i dont think many of us vinyl collecters have any other choice. I think if the band was concerned in any way about this they would just release and re-release real ones…

  33. admin on August 27th, 2009 2:38 pm

    Good points Andy…and I agree with you on the band not caring point. Tool show time and time again that they really don’t give a crap about fans…they are one of those bands that like the money, but not the fame. I had a disagreement with some guy on a New Zealand auction site the other day…there was a listing for 10,00 days vinyl…the auction went over $150…and the bidders didn’t even care that it was a bootleg…I think it is crazy to pay that sort of money for a bootleg…that person will be gutted when they see the production value of the actual product that arrives.

  34. Jake on September 4th, 2009 8:14 pm

    Bootleg or actual album?

    TOOL Lateralus 2-LP Vinyl Picture Disc Sealed!

    Item condition: —

    Time left: 5 days 17 hours (Sep 10, 200913:58:13 PDT)

  35. Dan on September 6th, 2009 5:14 pm

    Hey admin, did you say that this record is a genuine m8? I’ve seen auctions for very similiar looking albums which I believed were bootlegs?

  36. Dan on September 6th, 2009 5:14 pm
  37. admin on September 6th, 2009 7:15 pm

    Dan that item is real! Not bootleg at all.

  38. Dan on September 7th, 2009 3:26 am

    Thanks admin! It’s ordered and should be on its way at some point this year :P
    I’ll let you all know how it sounds. (Though my knowledge is severly limited being only my 2nd ever vinyl!)
    Dan

  39. Dan on September 7th, 2009 11:01 am

    Hey guys, just quickly, i found this auction on the site http://cgi.ebay.com/rare-tool-vinyl-lps-10000-days-aenima-lateralus_W0QQitemZ150370176696QQcmdZViewItemQQssPageNameZRSS:B:SRCH:US:101 viewed here we can see the same Lateralus album design that i just bought. I can see here that the 10,000 Days is fake and the one below it. So does that mean the Lateralus and the Aenema are bootlegs too? Will that mean that mine is?
    Sorry the confusion all but i want to make sure £40 wasn’t just wasted.

  40. Admin on September 15th, 2009 7:33 pm

    Dan, Lateralus in the link you provided is legit, the other 3 look fake. Aenima coould be real, as it is hard to say from the photo…but 10,000 days and Salival vinyls are all fake!

  41. nobody on September 17th, 2009 3:24 am

    god damn it, I just bought the Salival pressing off ebay. Oh well, at least I didn’t buy 10,000 days. I hope it gets released on vinyl!

  42. nobody on September 17th, 2009 3:26 am

    god damn it, i just bought Salival off ebay. At least I didnt buy 10,000 days. I hope it gets released on vinyl!

  43. Scooterface on September 18th, 2009 6:23 pm

    Terry on August 20th, 2009 7:39 pm (10,000 days)

    Terry this is a freakin’ bootleg. It came unsealed although “new” I thought. Label around spinle show faint lines (like the user couldn’t hit the hole when mounting.” Vicarious had scratch but very bearable. All are bootleg. I look at it this way, even at bootleg, they are still collectable. Use your own judgement. If there ever is a legit release….I will be on it!

  44. tally on September 24th, 2009 10:30 pm

    there are aenima rereleases on blue vinyl sold in record stores in the UK. the reports here say green and yellow edition are unofficial fakes, but what about the blue vinyl release?

  45. admin on September 24th, 2009 11:55 pm

    Fake Fake Fake!

  46. Terry on September 25th, 2009 8:13 pm

    I’ve emailed several of these douchbags selling fakes on Ebay and suprisingly, a couple actually replied back!

    Like this one – TOOL 10,000 DAYS LP LIMITED EDITION VINYL RECORD 10000
    Item Id: 160359063844
    End time: Sep-28-09 12:16:21 PDT

    I told him I thought the vinyl he was selling was fake/counterfeit, and received this back:

    “A few weeks ago it became available on auralexploits.com.
    It is still listed on their website but it is sold out. Go too auralexploits.com and search tool and you will find the listing.”

    Here’s the best example of “Oh, it’s not MY fault, I don;t know what I’m selling…”
    TOOL 10,000 DAYS RARE LTD BLUE VINYL 2LP RARE TRKS MINT
    Item Id: 280394802014
    End time: Sep-16-09 14:16:00 PDT

    Again, I said these were fake copies of the album since they aren’t even out yet:, and this is the unbelievable answer I got in return:
    THANKS, I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT TOOL, WE BUY FROM A DISTRIBUTOR, EVERYTHING UNUSUAL SELLS, TOOL FANS KNOW WHAT THEY WANT AND WHAT THINGS ARE FAR MORE THAN I DO. AS I UNDERSTAND IT FROM INFORMED FANS JUST LIKE YOU, THERE ARE MULTIPLE COLORS OF THIS TITLE AND WE TRY TO FIND THOSE FOR THEM. I MAKE NO JUDGEMENT CALL OR EDITORIAL CRITIQUE! THANKS AGAIN & GOOD LUCK IN YOUR SEARCH.

    Another example of “BUYER BEWARE”!!!!

  47. James on October 3rd, 2009 4:04 am

    what an excellent website! finally somewhere with some sound advice! i am too in the same situation as a lot of the visitors to this site, and will certainly not be attempting to purchase aenima or 10,000 days until they hopefully get issued/re-issued.

    i dont care how good the vinyl bootlegs are, by definition they are coming from a low quality source, even CD is not going to give you any advantages on a vinyl record.
    so unless you really dont care about the audiophile advantages of vinyl quality, dont buy a bootleg! its just a cd on a big plastic disk!

  48. Ben on October 14th, 2009 4:35 pm

    Heartland Records in Melbourne has a copy of the lateralus Blue vinyl bootleg ($60) & the Savital bootleg ($80), the guy who worked there didnt giove a rats when i told him he was selling bootlegs at inflated prices. Also Ive enquired in the Tool webpage (no responce yet) why Opiate & Undertow have been re-released and easily attanable yet Aenima isnt? Fortunatly i brought a copy back in 1997 and still kicking myself I opened it and played it to death.

  49. Chris on November 3rd, 2009 5:29 pm

    I just purchased a Lateralus LP Vinyl autographed by the band, I guess it was offered on the toolarmy website. How can I tell if it is authentic and not a fake?

  50. admin on November 3rd, 2009 5:45 pm

    There are legit copies of Lateralus autographed vinyl, figuring out if your copy is legit is hard though. Maynards sig is very easy to fake. I don’t think they came with any sort of authenticity cert or anything. Use the follow page as a guide…there are a whole heap of different designs…looks like they had a bit of fun with these:
    http://www.speleorovers.org/fourtheye/signed_lateralus_gallery/

  51. Chris on November 8th, 2009 11:05 am

    Thanks for the help, I am proud to say I have a real copy of Lateralus vinyl signed by the band. Does anyone know how many copies of these were produced? Any help would be appreciated.

  52. Ben on November 11th, 2009 8:00 pm

    Collectors Corner (Swantson St, Melb CBD) has the Aenima Bootleg for $100.00, the print job looks really cheap and blurry. The guy behind the counter has no idea why the price is so high… but did say hardcore fans would pay that much…. If you want one you know where to find it (12/11/2009)

  53. GERsom on November 16th, 2009 1:38 am

    I am thinking about buying a copy of the 10000 Days Bootleg on ebay; can somebody tell me about the quality, does it sound goood and is it worth buying?!

  54. Terry on December 12th, 2009 9:14 pm

    Any insight into this LP – Is it MP3 sourced?:

    TOOL Silver Tongue Vinyl LP
    SIDE A
    1. Part Of Me (Demo)
    2. Hush (Demo)
    3. Crawl Away (Demo)
    4. Jerkoff (Demo)
    5. Cold & Ugly (Demo) (From the Rare 1991 4-track demo tape “TOOL)
    6. Spasm (Live cover version of a song originally recorded by the band “PEACH”)

    SIDE B
    1. Wrong Way (Live cover version of a Sublime song)
    2. Kill The Revolution (Unreleased demo of a collaboration between Rage Against The Machine and TOOL)
    3. Know Your Enemy (Maynard with Rage Against The Machine)

  55. Admin on December 12th, 2009 9:18 pm

    Fake, bootleg, and mp3 sourced!

  56. Terry on December 12th, 2009 10:21 pm

    You’re the man Admin!!!
    (Or, not to be sexist, woman.)
    Thanks!

    Terry

  57. Michael on December 16th, 2009 4:25 am
  58. admin on December 16th, 2009 11:30 am

    Michael, there is no way that’s an official release…so bootleg for sure.

  59. Ryan on December 17th, 2009 10:14 pm

    Aenima LP on sale on Ebay right now but with deceptive photo, what do you think?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/original-mint-sealed-TOOL-dbl-LP-AENIMA-with-stickers_W0QQitemZ300378427005QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMusic_on_Vinyl?hash=item45eff30e7d

    Original (not reissue) TOOL double LP – AENIMA on ZOO 72445-11087-1.
    Original title sticker on front.
    No reserve.

  60. admin on December 17th, 2009 11:06 pm

    Hi Ryan, the sticker looks like the sticker on the original, very hard to say for sure without seeing the vinyl…or perhaps comparing that serial with a real one. It looks legit, but it could be fake!

  61. jesse on December 25th, 2009 1:24 am

    man these bootlegs rule. I’ll buy the real ones when they come out. but i gotta say i love both reissues for aenima and 10000 days

  62. dbone on February 1st, 2010 12:37 pm

    DO NOT Order Anything From AURALEXPLOITS.COM !! They will send out partial shipments, don’t use tracking numbers, take forever to send out orders, refuse to answer their phones – and they will steal your money!

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  63. Blue Agave on February 4th, 2010 6:23 am

    Ænima – Green Limited Edition Reissue

    * I bought this mint two LP set knowing that it was not the official release. The only official release of this record is on black vinyl and there has never been an official reissue. I was also able to compare this to the original.

    Both LP’s are bright green and you can see through them for the most part. There are some cloudy/milky parts within the vinyl that don’t make it totally clear. There are also tiny specks of what look like black vinyl embedded in each record.

    The cover is made of a thin rough material that is not like a typical album cover. It is flimsy and actually buckles when you handle it. The insert artwork is also a cheap reproduction of the original.

    When I played each record they had an unusual tap or bump sound as it rotated. The culprit was multiple excess vinyl tabs on the edge of each record. The only way to fix this was to file the edges of the records to be completely round. Once filed down each of the records played fine.

    Upon listening the records are obviously not pressed from the master recordings. They appear to be from CD when compared to the full and deep sound of the original pressing.

    It’s obvious that the Ænima – Green Limited Edition Reissue is a cheap reproduction attempting to capitalize on the expensive nature of acquiring the original pressing.

    The original pressing of Ænima sounds absolutely terrific so don’t be fooled by this or any other cheap reproductions.

    Label: Zoo Entertainment (3)
    Catalog#: 72445-11087-1
    Format: 2 x Vinyl, LP, Album, Unofficial Release, green
    Country: US
    Released:
    Genre: Rock
    Style: Prog Rock, Heavy Metal

    Tracklist
    A1 Stinkfist 5:11
    A2 Eulogy 8:29
    A3 H. 6:03
    A4 Useful Idiot 0:39
    B1 Forty Six & 2 6:03
    B2 Message To Harry Manback 1:53
    Keyboards [Uncredited] – David Bottrill

    B3 Hooker With A Penis 4:34
    B4 Intermission 0:56
    Organ [Uncredited] – Eban Schletter

    B5 Jimmy 5:24
    C1 Die Eier Von Satan 2:17
    Vocals [Uncredited] – Marko Fox

    C2 Pushit 9:56
    C3 Cesaro Summability 1:26
    C4 Ænima 6:40
    D1 (-) Ions 4:00
    D2 Third Eye 13:47
    Synthesizer [Uncredited] – Chris Pitman

    Credits
    Performer [Uncredited] – Adam Jones , Danny Carey , Justin Chancellor , Maynard James Keenan
    Producer [Uncredited] – David Bottrill , Tool (2)
    Notes
    Gatefold packaging.

    On back:
    The BMG and Zoo Entertainment logos are trademarks of BMG Music • ? © 1996 BMG Music • All Rights Reserved • Manufactured and Distributed by BMG Entertainment, New York, NY • Printed in U.S.A. • 72445-11087-1

  64. jesse on February 8th, 2010 3:01 pm

    Has anyone heard of a tool undertow picture disc? Is it fake?, Is it real and is it rare because i have one.

  65. admin on February 8th, 2010 3:10 pm

    I haven’t heard of one Jesse…if you post an image we could know for sure…all the picture disc are from Ænima era. There is a Lateralus one too. But the limited edition undertow vinyl are the Grey and Clear releases.

  66. jesse on February 8th, 2010 3:53 pm

    I got it from hot topic so i’m pretty sure it’s real, i was just wondering if it was rare or worth anything?

  67. admin on February 8th, 2010 4:13 pm

    Without an image there is not much I can offer you. There is a sober single picture disc from the undertow era.

  68. jesse on February 8th, 2010 6:09 pm

    i will send one tomorrow. How do i put a picture on hear off of my digital camera?

  69. Admin on February 8th, 2010 6:13 pm

    You can email it to my email address….it’s at the top of the page…toolvinyl@gmail.com…I will add it to the post for others to see. Cheers

  70. jesse on February 8th, 2010 8:02 pm

    What happened was my wife got sidetrakked w my kid and didnt pick it up for me, but shes going back over tomorrow and getting it for me, i was just wondering if i should have her pick it up for me they want 12.00 for it. I dont know if its a hot topic exclusive, repress or what. Do you think i should buy it?

  71. Pete on February 23rd, 2010 8:23 pm

    Glad I googled this before leaping into a purchase of 10000 Days on Vinyl! Cheers

    Does anyone know if they are going to release it officially?

    Does anyone know if they’re ever going to release a live in Concert DVD??? I know they shy away from the spotlight/commercial “success”, but fark man, every Tool fan and his dog who has seen them live is gagging for a DVD of one of their shows! SELL LIKE HOTCAKES!!! haha

  72. Pete on February 23rd, 2010 8:27 pm

    I also want a copy of Aenima, but how are you ever to tell a real from a fake? The fake re-issues are all coloured, right, blue, green or yellow…the original legitmate release was only on black vinyl?

    PS – does reporting these actions on eBay ever actually acheieve anything, aside from killing time! lol

  73. admin on February 25th, 2010 2:48 pm

    It’s hard with Aenima… have a read at some of the comments on the site.

  74. Todd on March 21st, 2010 6:40 am

    I recently got a MetaMusicOnline ebay listing of four fake Tool records removed because I came to this site as a reference. It took a couple of months haggling with Ebay to get around to it, but it’s worth it in the end to get this thievery stopped. Thanks for the help Toolvinyl.com, Todd

  75. Todd on March 21st, 2010 6:45 am

    :) I sent a complaint to BBB against MetaMusicOnline, Phoned Paypal to let them know, and Phoned Ebay and talked to an actual person and found out how to submit a report. Then I also went on the actual listing on Ebay and “reported” it at least 3 times. It can be done, but yes it takes some work and time… but like I said before, way worth it to give that guy what he deserved. He’s not going to jail or anything for stealing this music and making money off of it, but at least he can’t take advantage of unsuspecting people anymore. :)

  76. Hamza on March 21st, 2010 9:07 pm

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Tool-Salival-2x-Vinyl-LP-Record-very-rare-out-of-print_W0QQitemZ330387798039QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMusic_on_Vinyl?hash=item4ceca5b817

    hey i was wondering if the salival LP in the above link is original
    and i want to know if they’ve actually ever made a vinyl release for salival

    cheers

  77. Todd on April 1st, 2010 11:52 am

    Hamza the Salival vinyl you are looking at is a fake. They have never released it on vinyl to my knowledge. That is one of the fakes that is homeade that is being passed around. Put inside fancy wrapping to make it look good, don’t get fooled.

  78. Hamza on April 18th, 2010 11:52 pm

    Hey Todd,
    Thanks a ton, you saved me a good 50 dollars :)

    If you dont mind, i have another question for you…
    is this original by any chance….cuz the seller is top rated and it seems original

    http://cgi.ebay.com/TOOL-Lateralus-Limited-Edition-Picture-Disc-Vinyl-Album_W0QQitemZ180492533615QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMusic_on_Vinyl?hash=item2a06317f6f

  79. Shawn on May 4th, 2010 11:21 am

    A slightly different edition of Aenima has been added to Aural Exploits:

    https://www.auralexploits.com/product09_7628.htm

    “Tool
    Aenima – Limited edition 180 Gram vinyl

    Label: BMG
    Country: EU

    Limited edition re-issue on 180 Gram black vinyl.

    Pressed on double vinyl housed in a gatefold sleeve.”

    I was unable to find any information about this elsewhere. Probably fake?

  80. Todd on May 8th, 2010 3:36 pm

    Auralexploits.com is another site that is passing off fake vinyls. I feel bad for Tool.

  81. Todd on May 8th, 2010 3:37 pm

    Wondering if anyone can tell me a good site to confirm the small record numbers on the inside edge of a vinyl. Found an Aenima with B00000099X, trying to confirm authenticity.

  82. Todd on May 8th, 2010 3:39 pm

    Hamza those picture discs are all good. You can get one at Hastings music or anywhere, I have one myself. Really cool. The only ones that you can truly trust in buying are Undertow, Opiate and Lateralus.

  83. Hamza on May 28th, 2010 7:59 am

    hey there
    thanks man :)
    i bought it
    should arrive in a week’s time :)

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  85. Rick on June 3rd, 2010 8:09 am

    Hamza and Todd,

    I bought the one of the sealed Lateralus Picture Discs LPS Hamza posted.

    Why does it say copyright 2000 on the back when lateralus came out in May 2001?

    Let me know

  86. Rick on June 3rd, 2010 8:10 am

    also, I bought it from the exact same seller “wearefunseller”

  87. Admin on June 3rd, 2010 4:58 pm

    Ben – operation_goodguys on Ebay contacted me to have one of the above comments removed…I checked out his listings and he seems to be one of the main bootleggers on Ebay…selling all the rubbish 10,000 days and ‘Aenima’ Colour vinyl…and making a killing from them. Stay well away from his auctions. … or even better report his auctions as replicas.

  88. Richard on June 14th, 2010 4:28 pm

    I just bought Lateralus at “Everybodys Records” in Cincinnati and I now think it’s a fake from what I’m reading. It has one clear disc and one yellow disc. Has anyone seen this and can anyone confirm it’s a fake?

  89. admin on June 14th, 2010 5:35 pm

    It’s fake for sure Richard, can you take a photo and send it to me, I will add the photo to the post so everyone else can see it, and not make the same mistake. Cheers

  90. James on June 15th, 2010 11:01 pm

    Wish I had seen this site a week ago. I just bought both Ænima and 10,000 Days from operation_goodguys on eBay. I just paid $130 for two records that are worth basically nothing.

    Having said that, I’m not too disappointed. I’m no audiophile so I can’t tell the difference between a bootleg and an original. And as much as I’d love to own a legit copy of Ænima on vinyl, I’m not quite willing to pay the hundreds of dollars to get one.
    Both bootlegged copies of 10,000 Days and Ænima that I received look great, anybody who hasn’t visited this site wouldn’t know they were fake. And the sound is good quality too (my only beef is that there’s a gap between Lost Keys and Rosetta Stoned, they don’t segue properly).
    Perhaps the best bit about owning these fakes is that I have no qualms about playing them. If they were legit I wouldn’t want to touch them, let alone play them. So I’ll get plenty of enjoyment out of the fakes.

    So thats something to think about. Make sure you’re aware what you’re buying before you commit. :) But these bootlegs will give me plenty of good times while I wait for a legitimate release of 10,000 Days on vinyl and the live DVD we’re all waiting for.

  91. admin on June 15th, 2010 11:12 pm

    Thanks for the comments James. Plenty of people are buying those 10,000 days bootlegs! I think the live DVD is a dream though… That’s been in the pipes for years.

  92. jezza on June 16th, 2010 4:25 am

    hey hows it going, just wondering if you can tell me if aenima original came out in black vinyl, i bought one from NEWLPS and it looks good, the art work is good there is extra art work in the sleaves, but the vinyls ( double lp) are yellow and another colour the paper around the middle of the vinyl is not good, is it a fake? and can you tell me if they ever brought out salival on vinyl and if so how to spot a fake
    cheers

  93. admin on June 16th, 2010 5:30 pm

    Hi Jezza, there is no official Salival on vinyl, so they are all fake. The Yellow Aenima copies are fake also. Check out the buyers guide for more info on the actual offical vinyl releases. Cheers.

  94. Krieg on July 12th, 2010 5:36 pm

    hi, i’ve visited this page to find out more about real and fakes about tool LP, today i was searching on ebay and found the item posted in the next link

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Tool-Aenima-2x-LP-Ltd-Ed-Gatefold-w-2-inserts-oop-/160454731243?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item255bd8e5eb

    for what i know it has to be a bootleg because its on colored vinyl, but this one has something that the others don’t, the others ones i have seen only have one inner sleeve with the “eye” now this one has both inner sleeves and also the record label in the center of both vinyls looks like the real ones, if the vinyls werent in color i’d thought this was the real deal!! or is there an original version of aenema in colored vinyl?

    thx

  95. Aaron on July 16th, 2010 11:32 am

    I was visiting LA and went to Amoeba Records in Hollywood. To my surprise, they had 2 copies of Aenima for sale for $35 each. I grabbed one, even though I assumed it was a bootleg. (Sidenote, they had an “original” pressing autographed by the band for $400 behind the register.)

    The copy I bought looks completely legitimate. I compared the numbers and whatnot from this site to the back of the packaging and everything matches. I opened it up and the first disc was black so I thought I might have came across a miracle find. Then I got to the second disc and it was an orange disc. Was very sad.

    Anyways, this bootleg one that I purchased has all of the inserts. The Third Eye, Band Pics, Bill Hicks and Blue Man are all there. To anyone who doesn’t know any better it looks 100% legit. I have yet to listen to it, but for $35 I’m not too ticked off that it’s a fake.

  96. ryan w. on July 28th, 2010 5:44 am

    hey,
    there are fake aenima BLACK vinyls. so not just the originals are black. the fake black ones have white inner sleeves.stay away from them.
    also there is an undertow picture disc. Prison Sex/Sober 12″ Picture Disc. made in the UK. 1993
    just so you know

  97. Simon on August 2nd, 2010 4:09 am

    I am aware, of course, of all the bootlegs/counterfiets going around but what I don’t understand is what’s the big deal? If I can’t find my vinyl because it is too expencive or unavailable I will be happy to buy a bootleg. The sound is great, the cover looks almost the same and as for coloured vinyl, the more the better. I am a collcetor and if Toll do not want to release vinyl that’s their problem.
    Just my humble opinion.

  98. Richard on August 3rd, 2010 4:42 pm

    As a followup on my June 14 discovery of “Everybodys Records” in Cincinnati selling me a fake of Lateralus. I took it back and the guy(seemed to be an owner) kept saying it was not a fake. He was real pushy telling me over and over, It’s not a Fake. It’s not a Fake. When I gave him all the facts, he got pissed and jerked my credit card out of my hand, gave me my money back and told me to never come back in the store. It was pretty cool. I’m banned from Everybodys Records. I told him on the way out, that he just lost alot of money. He ran out the door after me yelling at me. It was awesome. I’m just thankful this website was here.
    What is the website that shows all copies of all albums and what to look for in fakes? I got that from this website but now I can’t find it. It was an awesome site for sure.

  99. jezza on August 25th, 2010 4:35 pm

    hi simon, i bought aenima and ten thousand days on vinyl and was told that they were originals, but then i find out that they are both fake, that realy pissed me off and so do bootlegers, they are making money off someone elses hard work., if tool havent brought out an album on vinyl i dont want it, ive been a tool fan from the very start, and if they dont bring out an album on vinyl thats their decision and i respect that, its the fucking bootlegers getting around selling tool vinyl that the art work and general look and feel of the album is shit and real tool fans wouldnt piss on it, that ive got no respect for what so ever!! just my opinion though

  100. Loz on August 27th, 2010 8:17 pm

    Hi, I just came across this site all the comments are so helpful!
    In 2000 I bought a white vinyl of prison sex for $20 AU, it looks very legit but now I’m not so sure after this. If you need a pic let me know.
    Any help would be great.

  101. admin on August 27th, 2010 8:24 pm

    Hi Loz, Check out the full vinyl buyers guide: http://toolvinyl.com/tool-vinyl-buyers-guide/ – The white prison sex vinyl is legit.

  102. Loz on August 27th, 2010 8:36 pm

    I just saw it! And it even has the fat lady card inside, quite chuffed… On the down side however I’ve just realised I was sucked into the bootleg salival a few years ago. Got it from rare records in stkilda.. The owner seemed a really genuine guy tho, ohwell all my others are real which i’m thankful for. Appreciate ur help, will be sure to check back here for hints in the future!

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