Tool Vinyl Buyers Guide

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1. Richard on June 14th, 2010 10:47 pm

   So I bought Aenima today. It had the original pressing writing on the back. How could this be? It had one clear vinyl disc and one yellow. The original had black vinyl. I only found out after I paid for this. Lucky for me, I bought it at a record shop in Cincinnati Ohio. I’m shocked they would sell fakes. Or am I wrong? From what I have seen, it’s a fake. I wish it were not. I’m very sad now.

2. admin on June 14th, 2010 10:55 pm

   Hi again Richard, all it would take is someone to scan the original vinyl sleeve and they could replicate the original, to be sure you need to see a range of evidence, the vinyl itself, the inlay and artwork. The Aenima cover must be one of the easiest and most profitable albums to bootleg, as it is so simple in design…even better seal it, then no-one will ever know what’s inside…I am sure that’s the case with some of the sealed copies of Aenima we see selling on eBay, but there’s not much you can do about it. Sorry for your bad experience in landing a bootleg, sometimes feels like the bad guys a winning!

3. admin on June 14th, 2010 10:58 pm

   The clear and yellow Aenima copies are fake for sure though!

4. Brent Munn on July 8th, 2010 1:27 pm

   Can you let me know if this is real? The ebay auction# is 110555818180. I really want it if it is real

5. Mat on August 5th, 2010 9:26 pm

   2 days ago i had purchased the lateralus LP from a local record shop and i believe it is original, however i am having doubts because the cat# etched on the record itself is the same as the one written in the buyers guide but has the letters RE after, not LP, also the cat# printed on the back is 61422-3116-1 LP not 61422-31160-1 LP as it is in the buyers guide, everything else matches up with what is supposed to make it original because on the inner sleeve the correct cat# is written and everything looks like it is supposed too. so if anyone has information on whether or not this is a re-issue it would be greatly appreciated.

6. Angus Clough on September 2nd, 2010 5:00 am

   I was looking at purchasing Salival on vinyl and was wondering if you could give me some heads up on some of the final details i.e catalog numbers and dates on vinyl release. thanks

   this is the e-bay item in question

   http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230518548945&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:AU:1123

7. admin on September 2nd, 2010 1:58 pm

   Hi Angus, unfortunately Tool has never released Salival on Vinyl, so any copies of it that you find are in fact Bootlegs….including the auction you have linked to. Check out the fake tool vinyl guide for more info: http://toolvinyl.com/fake-tool-vinyl-guide/

8. Fletchism on September 9th, 2010 5:28 am

   I know this site is dedicated to vinyl, but I was wondering if you could post some info on Tool’s 72826 demo cassette? Does anyone know how many are out there? And what do fans/collectors think they are worth? Any info would be appreciated!

9. HS on September 17th, 2010 8:24 pm

   Hi! This site is great!! Maybe you can answer a couple questions for me.

   How much should one expect to pay for the “Cesaro Summability 12″, Promo, Picture Disc, Limited Edition
   Released: 1996″? (I copied and pasted this information from your Buyer’s Guide.) Ballpark is fine.

   I know the LP is authentic–and . . . it is autographed by all members of the band! (The bassist who signed it is not the bassist on the recoding.) It is in perfect condition.

   Thanks for any help you are willing to give!

   Heidi

10. admin on September 17th, 2010 8:41 pm

    Hi Heidi, this vinyl sells for $250 on eBay when it’s not signed. Signed by the band should at least double the value. $500-$600 for an authentic signed copy would be an estimate. Having said that you could easily get much more than that if you find the right buyer. You could try listing it on the marketplace… Might help finding the right buyer if you want to sell. These sort of things are only worth what someone is willing to pay.

11. admin on September 17th, 2010 8:50 pm

    Also check out this page for a history of how muted signed tool items have sold on eBay for: http://www.popsike.com/php/quicksearch.php?searchtext=Tool+signed&x=0&y=0

12. HS on September 17th, 2010 9:24 pm

    My god! Thank you so much.

    Okay (deep breath) I’m going to list it on ebay, and then list it on your Marketplace.

    I hate to part with it, but the time is right for me.

    Thanks again!

    Heidi

13. jordan t d on October 13th, 2010 8:03 pm

    can someone please help me; i bought the aenima vinyl awhile back and it sounds great, it was sealed when i bought it so i had no idea what was inside, but all the artwork is there and the labels and what not. the only thing is, is that its an orange vinyl and ive NEVER seen another like it anywhere, not on any websites, not even on ebay. can someone who maybes knows more about the record than i do explain to me what i have.

14. admin on October 14th, 2010 1:57 pm

    Hi Jordan, Aenima didn’t come out on vinyl in any colour other that black….so it’s a bootleg for sure. Sorry about that.

15. jordan t d on October 14th, 2010 2:23 pm

    aww well, im still happy cause it sounds great. thanks for the info

16. ryan on October 27th, 2010 9:08 pm

    Is there another issue of Opiate? I’ve seen what appears to be the reissue, but it has the Parental Advisory Sticker like the 1st press. When did the Parental advisory start getting printed?

17. ryan on October 28th, 2010 4:03 am

    Also,

    Discogs shows the original press of Undertow to have the same jacket as the promo with a green vinyl and still does not contain the last song. The reference number is 72445-11052-1. Is this info correct. Discogs shows the last son showing up on the first repress in 1996 with the known cover..

18. Krzysztof on November 22nd, 2010 12:04 pm

    Hi
    Please see this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYqhl05QK7A and 2 last ocmments about Aenima coloured LPs. Is it true or pirates/fake bootlegers are trying to deceive Tool fans which already bougt tons of those coloured fakes?
    regards
    Krzysztof

19. admin on November 22nd, 2010 12:17 pm

    Hi Krzysztof, The same person wrote both of those last two comments…and the yellow…colored vinyl is a bootleg for sure…100%. He is probably a seller himself.

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21. Krzysztof on December 1st, 2010 2:37 pm

    Hi
    Lateralus from this shop – is it fake?
    Bar code No: 614223116013 (what is the original one?)
    Catalog No: 61422-3116-1 (should be 61422-31160-1)
    http://najlepszamuzyka.pl/index.php?products=product&prod_id=13966

22. Brian on January 18th, 2011 9:36 pm

    I hate to even ask this considering it’s a Tool guide but does anyone know of any significant differences between the A Perfect Circle – Mer De Noms original vinyl and 180G repress? Meaning differences on the cover to tell from a sealed copy and any differences to the inside if I find a used copy. Again, sorry for asking about something other than Tool, but this seemed like the best outlet and alot of you guys/gals seem quite knowledgeable. I already checked discogs and there’s not enough info to tell the difference as the catalog number is the same. Also, if no one knows, can you point me in the direction of a GOOD fan site?

23. Brian on January 18th, 2011 9:40 pm

    Also, Krzysztof….The Lateralus you mentioned on December 1st is real. Check http://www.discogs.com as it’s a great reference and has most but not all releases from the majority of bands.

24. admin on January 18th, 2011 10:03 pm

    Hi Brian, I can’t find any info to figure out the difference. If you look at http://www.popsike.com/php/quicksearch.php?searchtext=Mer+De+Noms&thumbs=&currsel=&x=15&y=13 – You can see all the old auctions on eBay for Mer De Noms, and the cat number is the same on the original and the re-print: 7243 8 49253 1 4. I guess if you avoid vinyl with the gold Capital sticker on the front, that’s a start. Maybe you can find something by looking at all auctions. I have a copy of the reprint, but not the original.

25. Brian on January 18th, 2011 11:04 pm

    Well, thanks so much for your timely response. Do you happen to know of any decent APC fan sites?

26. admin on January 19th, 2011 12:03 am

    Sorry, I don’t know any APC fan sites.

27. ryan on January 20th, 2011 6:24 pm

    Is the original pressing of OPIATE have a black label? I have seen that the repress has a white label. Does the original have a barcode identifier?

28. admin on January 20th, 2011 7:05 pm

    The first pressings should still have “PARENTAL ADVISORY” stickers on the front of the jacket (unlike later repressings that have it printed on the jacket.) The Volcano reissue uses a sleeve that still contains the Zoo logo. The label says Volcano. Because of that, the old Zoo cat# of 72445-11027-1 is in small print on the back, however, the vinyl contains the new cat#.

    Cat for old original: 72445-11027-1
    Cat for reissues: 61422-31027-1

29. ryan on January 20th, 2011 7:49 pm

    Thanks Admin. So they look the same on the outside. So a “Sealed” copy can only be identified by the sticker. Is it in the same spot and the same size? It’s kind of hard to tell looking at a picture and not being able to hold it. However, does anybody know if the original has a UPC? Does anybody have a copy of the original who can look?

30. john on January 22nd, 2011 1:16 pm

    could someone please tell me what the original pressing of opiate should say on the label?

31. Brian on January 22nd, 2011 1:57 pm

    @John

    There’s a few ways to tell if the difference between the original and the repress.

    1. The catalog number on the original is 72445-11027-1
    2. The original includes paper artwork insert
    3. There’s a big parental advisory sticker on the cover. The repress has a small parental advisory logo printed (not a sticker) on the bottom right corner of the EP jacket.
    4. The labels are black on the original and white on the repress (as far as I know, can someone confirm that about the labels?)

    Be careful when puchasing Opiate off on ebay or other online sites. Alot of people put up stock pictures/borrowed pics from the internet and not a picture of the actual item you’re buying. So you may see an ebay auction that has a picture of the original with the big parental advisory sticker when he/she is actually selling the repress. Always ask questions when buying from online places if you’re unsure.
    Hope this helps!

32. Michael Green on January 31st, 2011 10:03 pm

    I just bought a sealed Aenima… and it has all the right printing on the bottom back.. no stickers… and does not have the serial number on the bottom spine.. it was purchased in 2000 per seller… I own a sealed one that is identical to this but does not have the serial number on spine but has the stickers on the shrink wrap… I have another opened copy that has the serial number on the spine, very faint, and is an Original… How can I distinguish an original from a fake with a sealed copy.. Must an original have the serial number printed on the spine…. Very confusing… I would appreciate any real help I can get.. Thank you ahead of time.. I do have pics if needed…

33. ryan on January 31st, 2011 10:58 pm

    Michael,

    I saw this one as well. The guy was unsure if it was an original or not. I asked him to put up a picture of the spine and he pointed me to the pictures he had without it. I don’t have any copy, so I’m just as confused. I don’t think I’ll be going for a sealed copy.

34. Michael Green on February 1st, 2011 12:23 am

    Thanks Ryan… I hope someone out knows….

35. Brian on February 1st, 2011 1:35 am

    Michael, did you just recently buy that on ebay from a seller named “terrie_keenan” for $189.50? If so, I e-mailed that guy a few times while the auction was going and he seemed a bit shady and I think he was making up stories to sell a bootleg as an original. If you bought from that guy, beware. He has 8 feedback and he has already sold 2 sealed copies of Aenima.

36. Erik on March 6th, 2011 1:34 pm

    I have an AENIMA album that has all the proper markings but the vinyls themselves are colored . one is gray and the other is yellow with a slight tie dye effect .Both vinyls have 72445-11087-1 engraved on them with a A B C and D after each -1 . there was no parental advisory sticker on the plastic rap or on the cover of the LP and no serial number on the spine . Is it possible these are a bootleg .

37. admin on March 6th, 2011 1:51 pm

    Hi Erik, yes all the colored Aenima vinyl’s are bootlegs.

38. Erik on March 6th, 2011 3:29 pm

    Ok I figured it so . Maybe you could use this pic to show people what a counterfeit looks like /Users/erikgraul/Pictures/Aperture Library.aplibrary/Untitled Project (3).approject/2011-03-06 @ 05:24:44 PM – 2.apimportgroup/IMG_2640/Previews/IMG_2640.jpg

39. ryan on March 7th, 2011 4:33 pm

    Did the Lateralus Promo Picture Disc come in a sleeve?

40. Joe on April 13th, 2011 7:55 am

    Hi,
    With regards to the Original pressings of Aenima, Does anyone know if the number on the sticker on the shrink wrap (72445-11087-1) should match the number on the spine (61422-31087-1). Does the fact that they don’t match raise a red flag?

    Thanks.

41. Moz on April 14th, 2011 12:36 pm

    Howdy,

    Quick question…

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tool-Undertow-2LP-orig-Perfect-Circle-/140534059815?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item20b87b9327

    Any ideas if this is the real deal? The buyer’s guide above states the 1996 reissue had a parental advisory sticker on the front (as does this). Did the ’93 press have one at all?

    Cheers!

42. ryan on April 15th, 2011 6:12 am

    Howdy,

    I’d say ask if the catalog number on the label has the “RE” at the end. Or get a picture of it.

43. josh on April 16th, 2011 2:00 pm

    I picked up a sealed copy of Aenima at a record store today and on the back it looks legit for catalog number 72445-11087-1. However, I see no catalog number on the spine itself. Is this probably a fake? I don’t want to risk opening it if it’s legit.

44. Michael Green on April 17th, 2011 2:08 am

    Hi Josh.. if it has the advisory sticker and the other one, it has a much higher change of being legit… If not, it would probably be best to open it.. to see. Because you are not going to want to sell it sealed without stickers… Maybe someone will know the answer whether, If stickers then authentic.. and I believe the sticker on the shrink too.. Best, Michael

45. CharlestonChew on April 18th, 2011 1:19 pm

    Was wondering, I picked up Aenima,Opiate and Undertow a year ago for about 90$. The barcode # on the back of Aenima reads 6 1422-31087-1. There us also the # 72445-11087-1 written bettween the “printed in the USA” and the Zoo logo. It also has full art work for the sleeves of each vinyl. There is no parental advisory sticker attached to the front. It may have been removed because the both the records and covers are all very used. I’m not sure which pressing this is. I was hoping you could clarify this up. Thanks.

46. CharlestonChew on April 18th, 2011 1:30 pm

    Oh yeah and the actual vinyl discs themselves have printed labels that have faint designs on them. Inside the groove at the end of the discs have 72445-11087-1-a1 (b1,c1,d1).

47. Rodrigo Jones on May 22nd, 2011 11:50 am

    Hi, I´m from Mexico, yesterday I bought the AEnima vinyl, I was sure to see all the signs, all the guide to buy an origiginal Tool vinyl. I bought from an independent seller, because here there are not much music stores, so I bought, evarything it’s fine, the cover, the back bottom legends, the numbres, codes and even the inlay artwork, but… I have one grey disc (A/B side) and one yellow (C/D side).. so, I think I’ve been swindled… right?

48. admin on May 22nd, 2011 11:52 am

    Yes….the yellow vinyl is fake, sorry.

49. Michael Green on May 22nd, 2011 2:09 pm

    Hello Rodrigo.. sorry about the forgery.. Did you buy it sealed? Did it have the two stickers on the shrink wrap… Live and learn… I hope you did not pay too much…

50. thrak on May 22nd, 2011 10:38 pm

    Tool coloured fakes on amazon… No comment.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B00008FYWB/ref=sr_1_4_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1306128960&sr=8-4

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B00005BGV2/ref=dp_olp_collectible?ie=UTF8&qid=1306128960&sr=8-3&condition=collectible

51. Rodrigo Jones on May 23rd, 2011 8:38 am

    Hi Michael, you say yellow vinyl (solid colour, not clear) is fake, so the grey? And yes, I bought it sealed but without any stickers… and I don’t know if I pay a lot, about $1,200 MX pesos, that would be like $100 USD…

52. Brent C. on June 3rd, 2011 9:21 am

    A friend of mine recently got a copy of Aenima and the back bottom reads: “The Zoo Entertainment logo is a trademark of Volcano Entertainment. • ℗ © 1996 Volcano Entertainment LLC 1540 Broadway New York, NY 10036 • Warning All Rights reserved • Unauthorized Duplication Is A Violation OF Applicable Laws • Manufactured and Distributed by BMG Entertainment, New York, NY • Printed in U.S.A. • 61422-31145-1″. It is sealed, BUT also has the “Parental Advisory” sticker on it (which is UNDER the shrink wrap) and a “TOOL Aenima” sticker OUTSIDE the shrink wrap. This sticker has the number 72445-11087-1 on it as well. Is it safe to assume this is a Bootleg copy?? Thanks for any feedback!

53. Kyle on June 7th, 2011 12:43 pm

    So, the real Aenima vinyl is the green color?

    Thoughts on this copy?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/TOOL-aenima-2xLP-neurosis-deftones-isis-nine-inch-nails-/320707640502?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item4aabaa3cb6#ht_3213wt_1141

    Much Thanks,
    Kyle

54. admin on June 7th, 2011 8:54 pm

    All the colored vinyl is fake.

55. Steve on June 9th, 2011 2:00 pm

    well dang. I just found Aenima [72445 11087 1] at a record store, and bought it. Matched everything here exactly… Except it’s orange.

56. admin on June 9th, 2011 3:53 pm

    Steve, I guess the bootleggers are copying the original sleeve, makes life hard spotting the authentic .

57. Credulous_Sap on June 17th, 2011 3:43 am

    Question: (If you’re still answering them)

    Are you sure that the Ænima pressings you have listed aren’t swapped?

    Ænima came out on vinyl on September 17, 1996. BMG owned Zoo but sold them in August of 1996. A month before the album came out. Wouldn’t that mean that the vinyl with the BMG and the Zoo logo on the back would be the first pressing? If BMG owned the Zoo label, they would have definitely put their logo on the back also. I can’t see Zoo pressing the album and then pressing it again with the logo of the label that just sold them. That doesn’t make any sense?

    What are your thoughts?

    Thanks

58. tyler on June 25th, 2011 6:06 pm

    Where can I buy a legit vinyl of Aenima? I don’t want to buy on ebay, it seems like everything is fake, but there aren’t a whole lot of other sites out there. Does anyone know of a legit site/store, I need to add this to my collection.

59. rollerskates on July 7th, 2011 8:10 pm

    Brent C. – My opened copy of 61422-31145-1 has a PA sticker stuck on the record sleeve. My two sealed copies of 61422-31087-1 have the TOOL sticker (72445-11087-1) and the PA sticker on the outside of the shrink wrap. All of these records have been in my possession for over a decade. Hope this info can be of help to you.

60. efrem on October 14th, 2011 9:34 pm

    hey there.
    i’m not sure why u’ve listed my Tool – Aenima record on your site as a fake. Ebay item number: 270833498291. This item is an original sealed 1996 pressing.
    Catalog#: 72445 11087 1 – Pressing B (2nd Pressing)
    I would appreciate it if u removed my listing as “fake” on your website bcuz it is indeed the real deal.
    i can appreciate that u are wanting to help avid collectors and Tool fans to be careful when purchasing Tool collectibles, but in this case u are misleading people with your incorrect findings.
    Thank u.

61. admin on October 14th, 2011 10:51 pm

    What are you talking about efrem, your vinyl is in no way listed as fake…it is on the site as a related auction, I am simply suggesting viewers be careful when buying from eBay because it is loaded with fakes. Having said that I think you are charging an extortionist price for your vinyl.

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